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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:32:34 by D
as usual, it has been a pleasure but my head is throbbing and it's bedtime. sweet dreams.
D
just don't want to....
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:31:34 by D
Comment:ok i was just wondering...someone said something about paul being hot...but i thought...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:30:59 by Derek
you couldn't show pics of him...or is that changed now...i'm so behind times
T-day was the best ever...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:30:20 by D
I posted about it down below.
Comment: So D how was your t-day, mine was a good as it could have been being a vegetarian and all
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:29:16 by BobWSU
he's an excellent flirt
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:28:58 by D
Comment: Danny! so what does Paul do when the women hit on him? flashes a lovely smile and walk away or
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:28:10 by Stoney
what?
there's plenty of love to go around...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:31:06 by D
though i'm about to crash.
Comment: Ok,.. just hard to talk... drowning in other people topics o mi gawd! lol
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:29:15 by Rolf
i'm ok here man...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:27:05 by D
Comment: ####n Danny, u need to get AIM... cant a brotha talk?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:26:16 by Rolf
he probably...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:27:34 by D
runs around with them and thinks he's a kid too. he definitely has
problems though.
D
I don't think so...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:26:45 by D
I just think he's a wack job because he never had a childhood or a normal
existance. anyone would be wack in his shoes.
D
Comment: danny, do you think
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:26:07 by stoney
michael j did wrong ? just curious!i think hes portrayed as gentle so maybe not but we'll see.
no one has
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:29:23 by D
Comment: i have never seen paul can you actually show a picture of him now?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:28:00 by Derek
Paul?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:19:30 by D
yeah, yeah, yeah... everybody wants their piece of Paul. I can't go out
with him anymore without some 30ish house wife throwing herself at him.
D
Comment: Danny.........
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:16:46 by Stoker
So anyway, you need to smack his ass, and send him in here more. Tell him that Stokedaddy misses him.
haha...like he remembers me.
having an awesome weekend...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:25:33 by D
had a good Thanksgiving and all my friends just left so now i'm detoxing
and working hard all week to get fit again.
D
Comment: Re(1): aloha Stoney...how's it? I'm off the wagon right now.
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:23:16 by stoney
going good dannny!!! nice and greeen so far!! come on over for a smoking sessionare you having a good weekend danny?
aloha Stoney...how's it? I'm off the
wagon right now.
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:21:30 by D
Comment:Re(1): Danny.........
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:20:14 by stoney
hi stoke daddy n danny boy!
exactly..fake boobies and new money
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:15:39 by D
Comment: fake boobies and new money ;-)
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:13:39 by Stoker
Nah I have loved Dallas since I was little.
I will end up either there or Austin.
good night kid
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:06:32 by D
Comment: have a goodnight D >>>>
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:05:57 by Jhuney boy
gotta take a quick shower then head to bed .
Talk to you guys later.
Jhuney boy
my daily routine varies more than you
can imagine...depends one what city i'm in!
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:13:09 by D
Comment: well....
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:11:43 by Derek
i was just wondering stuff like...Where do you work and like what is your daily routine like...if that's not something you mind saying
It's almost 1 here
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:09:09 by D
Comment: LOL....
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:07:42 by Derek
i'm good so what time is it where you are...o and why are you on this late...if it is late
you should be in bed...staying awake
late will kill your brain cells!
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:05:49 by D
Comment:lol....can you say like ages ago...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:02:27 by Derek
i'm the little 16 yr old from TN! and i'm like delirious right now so excuse me if i say something awkward loL!!!
When Did I talk to you?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:00:45 by D
Comment: Hey danny...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:59:46 by Derek
Its been a while hasn't it...u prolly don't remember talking to me so what's up its like 2:46 in the morn here...just thought i'd drop in cause Rolf told me you were on here so just thought i'd chat and all
First off...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:21:00 by D
I don't think anyone lies about it. I just don't think they've fully found
themselves yet and it's innocent. Secondly, I plainly said that you could
just as easily be bi as not and I'm not saying you're not.
D
no...i'm just going to see my family
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:28:30 by D
Comment: why not in TN...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:25:15 by Derek
not that i really blame you...well cause its just Tennessee lol...but i wish i could come to the thing in Atlanta but i just can't lol too bad
as close as Atlanta...i'll be there in
2 weeks
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:23:13 by D
Comment: do you ever come anywhere near Tennessee? if not i don't blame you
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:22:00 by Derek
of what?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:16:24 by Dean for
America
Comment: Danny, I hope ur not accusing me...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:15:22 by Rolf
wife? you consider yourself to be bi
right?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:05:15 by D
Though I believe that to be 100% possible and even know people who truley
are, I think the majority of people who claim that are riding a safety
net. It takes alot of life and experience to really know that in your
heart. I think the overwhelming majority of people go one way or the
other. But who knows, maybe you are. I'm not saying at all that you
aren't. It's funny when young guys come on here because they're always
"bi". That's a natural way of saying, "I'm gay but i'm just figuring it
out and i'm still thinking I like girls because i've been taught to think
that." I think it's cute and a very natural transition.
D
Comment: Awesome! If i dont have one with my wife naturally, I'm definatly adopting!
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:00:42 by Rolf
when I grow up...most likely.
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:58:34 by D
Comment: Danny, will u ever adopt?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:57:48 by Rolf
status quo...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:18:26 by D
it's everywhere and you can't escape it
Comment: LOL, my sentiments exactly, I guess...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:13:58 by BobWSU
we are able to overcome the odds with our disregard for the "status quo".
I got to this point...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:08:45 by D
because I have always been so disgusted with the status quo. It's funny to
think what would have happened had I not done the show and transitioned to
what i'm doing now. I might just be living in a hippie commune somewhere.
that's how much I can't stand the status quo and our muddled culture/life.
Comment: I feel the same way...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:05:54 by BobWSU
Although I have to admit that it is extremely difficult to step outside of the box or the "status quo" in order to do what is right. I am no where near the level that you are currently at with influencing the numbers of people that you do, however with the few that I have been able to educate, it has been in no way easy. Then again I don't think I expected to be.
to do what is expected...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:00:11 by D
is utterly boring and painful. I couldn't do it or i'd feel my life to be
a waste. I recognize that I'm in an excellent position to do good things
and I'd be a fool to waste that opportunity.
D
Comment: Wow, I have so much respect for your decision...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:56:16 by BobWSU
to go beyond the mold of well discussing what everyone expects you to discuss, to someone that takes on issues that could in large positively change our society. I know what you are doing is not at all an easy task, but I believe that people such as yourself will be the influential factor needed in order to bring about the justices to all of those in society that well are discriminated against.
back in the day...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:49:11 by D
I traveled around speaking with other cast members about the experience
and media influence, etc. It was mostly a load of crap but I soon realized
that I could turn it into a diversity lecture so I went out on a limb and
tried it. Schools loved it and I began getting booked by word of mouth. I
spoke with my last cast member a few weeks ago and told my agent I'd never
do it again. The show was the launching point but i've got to divorce
myself from that as much as possible to move onto more important things.
D
Comment: Danny on your transition from speaking with the real worlders to....
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:42:03 by BobWSU
Well I asked you this question at butler but I left before yah finished. You said that you were tired of speaking about the real world, etc. but I was wondering how you were able to find the opportunity to do what you are currently doing?
you see alot of that on this board...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:58:13 by D
teenagers desperately clawing for meaning and understanding and I know how
they're feeling but there's so little you can do for them. That's a time
of life when you've really got to figure things out on your own through
personal experience. All the advice in the world really means nothing in
the end because so much is up in the air in that time in life. Would never
want to go there again.
D
yeah...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:51:34 by D
but I didn't miss that point...
leaving the teenage years is one of the most exciting times in
life...moving beyond that angst and confusion and finding yourself. You're
just merging onto a long road of that process that goes way into your
20's. I'm still on that road and it's a good one.
D
Comment: I was trying to say...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:44:29 by Rolf
u know when u were 19, life is starting to get good b/c ur coming out of the teenage stage (u know the depressing part of ur life) and u just wanna yell out loud and dance like no ones watching.. and u meet all kinda kool people... and ur future looks so ####in awesome...its crazy..but do u remember that?
what did I miss?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:41:01 by D
Comment: Ah, nm.. u missed whut I was trying to say..
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:39:55 by Rolf
I call everybody kid including my
parents
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:37:57 by D
Comment:lol, im fukin kool... just remember when u were 19
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:37:34 by Rolf
getting your attention...you've got to
calm down sometimes to really enjoy others kid
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:36:05 by D
Oh yeah...your next step is being a
star...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 01:06:19 by D
Comment:Yea.. ive been going non stop..gotta get to Los Angeles..lol
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:55:59 by Rolf
you're already a junior?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:55:07 by D
Comment: Haha, dont diss my phonetics.. it is just a >>
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:54:37 by Rolf
faster way of typing.. and more fun... i know how to write..(im only a junior in college.. and as we speak im writing a paper on morality in "Antigone"..)but im glad it amuses u..
where did you pick up this phonetic
spelling?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:52:06 by D
Comment: Yea, prolly tru... u got any questions for me? lol
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:46:51 by Rolf
you know far more about me than I know
about you
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:44:34 by D
Comment: I live high.. and not litterally..enuf bout me, lets talk about u
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:41:50 by Rolf
it's cool...you're always high strung
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:37:39 by D
Comment: Sorry, I was just excited to see ur name on here
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:36:33 by Rolf
evening man...you've got to calm
down...it's late and tonight is low energy
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:31:57 by Rolf
Comment: DANNY!!!! COMPADRE!! LONG TIME!
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:30:31 by ROLF
most of those people don't want to
understand...they're too blind
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:52:54 by D
Comment: I couldn't agree with you more...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:51:08 by BobWSU
It surprises me how some people trap themselves in well this pigeon hole of society and wonder why they cannot relate or remotely understand others outside their culture. I mean I am not disrespecting those that choose to live those lives, it is just with the choice to do so they cannot be surprised by the consequences, after all every choice has its own result.
traveling...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:46:32 by D
is the key to understanding each other. The more you travel, the more you
pull yourself out of the matrix and see the world for what it really is.
D
Comment: Yeah, diversity I think is the key to truly understanding people
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:43:45 by BobWSU
I keep friends around me...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:38:57 by D
with her perspective so i'm never peering down a narrow American scope.
Gotta keep reality in check.
D
Comment: Re(1): She was key...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:36:51 by BobWSU
exactly, and it was interesting to hear her speak about the fact that even though she is now an American citizen she has a different perspective of 9/11 that differed from the rest of us because of her background. I know that the media has a way of well twisting the facts, but it was somewhat comforting to have the opportunity to get the scoop from someone that was raised in another culture.
She was key...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:31:26 by Danny
because of the fact that she's from outside our culture and was really
able to explain viewpoints of our society as seen from beyond the borders.
Americans have a hard time seeing beyond our cultural scope and ithelps
for someone to "crack the egg" by explaining this so that we can move on
to explain how things can be viewed differently.
D
Comment: Yeah I agree...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:28:12 by BobWSU
I did not at all expect there to be a professor speaking that night, however I am glad that they invited her to speak. I think having insight from those from our generation and from those from different generations was a more beneficial experience.
I can say the same thing...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:24:56 by Danny
the professor on the panel was extremely insightful and well spoken. It's
funny how my speaking ranges from horrible renditions thrown together with
other RW cast members to intelligent forums such as that one.
D
Comment: It's going pretty good...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:23:36 by BobWSU
Hey I just wanted to give you kudos on doing such a good job speaking at the forum. Going in I really did not know what to expect, but I can gladly say that I learned a lot from the discussion.
Of course I remember you! How's it?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:20:41 by D
Comment: Hey Danny, do yah remember me, I saw yah at butler a couple of weeks ago
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:19:07 by BobWSU
working out...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:54:41 by D
I couldn't gain a pound if I tried but I excercise regularly to keep me in
a good mood. More people should learn that mood enhancer.
Tomb Raider II was good until the end...got a little ridiculous.
D
Comment: yeah Im all about bargain / Sale dude >>>
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:43:07 by Jhuney boy
I havent seen that Tomb Raider II yet - Is it good?
Thanksgiving dinner then Gym - whats up with that (scare of gainin some weight Danny haha just teasin).
Jhuney boy
yea but...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:37:17 by D
most here aren't going to kow what Lumpia is.
I'm cool...just sitting by a fire and finished watching Laura Croft-Tomb
Raider II. Christmas shopping eh?
D
Comment: its called :::
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:34:37 by Jhuney boy
Lumpia Danny lol hows it going dude
Shopping entire day and tired man (just watching West Wing and late late dinner).
Jhuney boy
it's all about the peanut sauce
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:55:52 by D
Comment: yea but...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:37:17 by D
most here aren't going to know what Lumpia is.
I'm cool...just sitting by a fire and finished watching Laura Croft-Tomb Raider II. Christmas shopping eh?
D
I love fresh spring rolls...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:40:37 by D
hate when they're fried.
D
please...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:39:49 by D
we split cooking duties and I do most house/yard duties. He's definitely
not spoiling me in anyway. It's the other way around.
D
Comment: I much prefer spring rolls
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:35:23 by Stoker
man he is the woman in the relationship....always cookin for your lazy ass!!!LOL
Our dinner...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:28:49 by Danny
was pretty traditional except for the home made egg rolls that Paul
whipped up as an appetizer. Can't do it all status quo.
D
Comment: I agree.........
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:26:37 by Stoker
I had one on Cliff's birthday jsut for him and that was it...that made all of 2 that I have had in my life. I try not to be one of those people who won't eat schit just because...I will give it a try........but I am dam picky
and I not so sure on the bacon there buddy. Just plane ole dressing with lots of sage!!!
I don't know...what do they eat?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:18:15 by Danny
Comment: I think the biggest variation is the dressing..........
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:20:23 by Stoker
my cousin's family is from VA and they put oysters in theirs.......how foul is that
I don't know...what do they eat?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:18:15 by Danny
Comment: fun stuff.....
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:17:00 by Stoker
So what do the beautiful people eat for thanksgiving?
I think it is funny how our traditions differ from region to region.
Seattle Turkey day...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:15:05 by D
stayed here at the house and had friends from out of town fly in as well
as friends from in town over. We had about 10 people over all together and
had a blast. Good food.
D
Comment: Ya....
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:12:05 by Stoker
I am still out at the ranch.
I am jsut here alot, when you have a laptop and you can be by a computer comfortably...hey why not!!
Ya'll stay up there for turkey day?
And now that you are here everyone will come out of the woodwork!!
Stoker...you live on this board...
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:09:57 by D
you have a good Thanksgiving?
Comment: Other than me I think you are SOL
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:07:48 by Stoker
how goes it?
Evening...Anyone still awake?
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Posted on November 30, 2003 at 00:04:12 by Danny
guess no one is
around...
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Posted on November 28, 2003 at 20:31:23 by Danny
my friends are all finished up so i'm outta here. Have a good weekend
everyone.
D
Evening CTOC...
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Posted on November 28, 2003 at 20:20:05 by Danny
Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. I have to say that I was blessed
with having about 10 of my best friends in town to have dinner with and
good times. The wine was flowing freely.
Just sitting here at the gym waiting on some of them to finish up so we
can head to dinner so I thought i'd pop in and say hello.
D
it's a hip city...
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Posted on November 28, 2003 at 20:27:02 by Danny
very cool and and getting better everyday. Some recent laws passed there
are making it more and more Canada's Amsterdam. Seattle, say goodbye to
your place as the NW's hotspot.
D
Comment: Re(1): vancouver canada
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Posted on November 28, 2003 at 16:51:32 by Shane
I bel;ieve it's a very nice place. I'm hoping to visit there next year.
Happy Thanksgiving
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Posted on November 27, 2003 at 01:00:31 by Danny
Happy Turkey Day everyone...eat alot and be happy!
Much Love,
Danny
alright kids...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:59:29 by D
I just noticed my little boy is asleep on the couch and It's time to tuck
him in...goodnight.
D
i'd be happy to have new money...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:56:22 by D
so I could buy a big patch of land in suburbia somewhere and piss of
developers when they couldn't touch it....i'd love to screw up their crap
plans.
D
Comment:schit.....my money is OLD!!!!
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:54:20 by Stoker
:-p
Night stoker...you gonna count new
money in your dreams for me?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:51:16 by D
nothing to resent...it's a term of
affection kid
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:50:57 by D
Comment: hey... im legal drinking age... i resent that!!! hahahaha
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:49:22 by Jag
i'll be the uncle
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:57:25 by D
a cute baby...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:50:29 by D
Comment: What does that suppose to mean?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:49:41 by Dan
just saying cause I only turn 20 last month... feel like being 19 for way too long
Just a baby
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:48:13 by D
Comment: I'm 19
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:45:27 by Jag
which one are you and where are you
from?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:41:36 by D
Comment: k Danny, this time it should work
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:40:11 by Jag
Yeah...but studying abroad...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:38:03 by D
is the best experience for students. Wish everyone could and would do it.
Our country would understand the world a little more and the way we're
viewed.
We'd also like to go to Ireland but there's only so much we can do at
once.
D
Comment: WOW!! that's....
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:36:48 by STeven
so awesome. Next Fall, i'll be spending a study abroad semester at a university in London. I'm really excited about it. Adam is alittle sad cause he knows i'll be gone for like three months. I'm planning on taking trips to France and through out Scotland. It's gonna be an awesome experience.
we talked about this once...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:58:36 by D
some small town in the southwest of Germany.
crazy kids.
D
Comment: you've got German friends
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:57:01 by Lance
me too man...what cities in germany are they from?
I'm obsessed with...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:52:11 by D
checking out the underground Berlin scene and i've got German friends.
D
That's another trip...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:42:46 by D
I'm really wanting to check out Italy and Germany...
Comment: hmm... I see... what about the Greece, Spain and those areas?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:41:28 by Dan
Out of all of Europe...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:38:55 by D
it's the closest thing you'll come to the US...though still not even
close. I at least want to be where the language is different.
D
Swiss French is easy to understand too
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:42:18 by D
Comment: The hotels were only like $40/nite...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:41:40 by Rochester
and that was ski season. I was totally lost though because FRENCH was the spoken word in the south...no problem for some of us.
Switzerland...too expensive
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:39:21 by D
Comment: If you hit Switzerland...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:38:16 by Rochester
the south (just on the other side of the Alps from Milan) check out the village of Chateau d'Oex...great skiing in the winter, just beautiful the rest of the time. Train is the easiest way to get around.
nope...but that was my guess..
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:33:52 by D
speaking of which, Paul and I are currently planning our Euro-trip for
next year. On the list as of now, South of France, Italy (pompeii, Rome
and the north coast), Possibly Berlin, Possibly Prague and finally,
hopefully rounding it out in Amsterdam.
D
It's easy to hear stuff...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:40:53 by D
not played or heard in the US if you do a little investigation. Our
stations stifle us with crap that rotates every few songs.
D
Comment: I agree....
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:39:44 by Steven
There is an internet radio station that I listen to from England that plays all of that kind of music. Stuff you dont hear in the states usually. I love it
The English and Germans have some of
the best underground Electronica
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:36:54 by D
My guess is English but could be
US...you know?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:30:23 by D
Comment: Danny....
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:29:45 by Steven
I just downloaded some of the music, I like it. Really soulful. You know where they are from??
Scott...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:28:34 by Danny
not sure if you'll read this but i'm responding to your letter. The person
you talked about it is a really nice guy and someone you can trust.
D
The states are caught...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:43:58 by D
up in this BS so-cal pop rock BS. If I see another band of 19-24 year old
punks playing some 80's remake i'll jump off a bridge.
D
The older I get the more into Soul I
get...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:31:05 by D
Comment:you should check out Petestrumentals by Pete Rock
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:30:01 by Lance
..it's a really chill album.
I'm also a big fan of Aquanote as well...you'd like them.
Nope...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:23:30 by D
but i'm really, really into Soulful Downtempo beats as of this last year.
Can't get enough of the sexiness.
It's so anti Cali-pop rock that racks my brain every time I turn on the
radio.
D
Comment:D, you might like
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:22:04 by Lance
Phoenix...have you heard of them?
poor thing....
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:24:09 by D
Jake, remind me which guy you were.
D
Comment:Re(1): They showed me a good time...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:22:17 by Jake
You looked a little in shock. I am over that place but all my friends like to go there because of the cheapness of it. I on the other hand am ready for a much larger city and the sad thing is I have only been here for a few months.
They showed me a good time...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:19:38 by D
I hadn't been to a gay bar like that in so long that I felt like a tourist
checking it out. It was a cultural experience.
D
ok, you're not Jake from AR
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:53:47 by D
Comment:Well Indy is better than where I was before...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:37:15 by Jake
Before Indy I lived in Lafayette, IN, the home of Purdue University. It was much more anti-gay and this has been a step up for me. There are many many steps to go. And Thursday could have possibly been a good night for me, we'll see in the next few weeks.
there were some mad creepy people in
that joint...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:32:29 by D
reminded of gay bars in the south. I just think in areas that tend to be
anti-gay, you end up with people carrying incredible guilt and self-hate.
It's really sad but not fun energy to be around. It's amazing what ones
environment can do to a person.
D
yeah...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:47:10 by D
apparently this Asian kid thought he was the queen of the joint and tried
to kick my#####because he thought i was straight and was "invading" his
territory. We had a few swings and then a bouncer through his#####out.
That was after he kicked a female friend of mine, pushed another friend of
mine down steps and flipped out.
D
I chalk it up to another...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:47:57 by D
Seattle wack job and one more reason for me to move eventually.
happened back in the early summer.
D
Comment: Fight?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:43:53 by Lance
i'll never go to that sad joint
again...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:35:02 by D
after my fight there.
D
Comment: you sure you weren't at Neighbours?
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:31:52 by Lance
though complete...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:25:04 by D
with standard bad diva-house drag queen performances and creepy bathroom
action.
D
true
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:24:23 by D
Comment: except it is a little more hole-in-the-wallish
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:23:51 by Jake
I think you can say the same thing...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:29:54 by D
about any gay bar anywhere in the world. That's exactly the point...they
tend to be the same no matter where you are.
D
Comment: Honestly... that doesn't mean a whole lot to me...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:28:47 by Dan
I haven't never been to a Gay bar in USA...
I have been to one in Montreal (So much fun).... I have been to one in London England... (also really really fun)...
but never in US... not old enough...
It was like...umm...ANY-GAY-BAR USA
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:22:27 by D
Comment:Is there album...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:21:07 by Steven
on a major label or independent?? Would like to check some of the music out
very soulful...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:18:52 by D
It's anti-seattle music
Comment: I still think Soul Vibe...
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:17:06 by Lance
...is the best song on that album
It's a DJ named Miguel Migs and the
lyrics are a female
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:13:39 by D
Comment: Danny, just curious since I just got here, who is the artist of the lyrics??
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:13:06 by Steven
my favorite song off this album
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Posted on November 23, 2003 at 22:11:55 by D
all these lonely days
seems like yesterday i was a little child
playing games and running wild
only kids discover
in a world of lovers
then it went away
so far away
those days of colors
days of colors...
can i get someone
to help me with the sun
it brightens up my way
i need it back again to play
sad of me to know
everything is grown
how quickly everyone
has faded from those days of color...
I love this song because it's very fitting to this point in life when
everyone around me is "growing up" so quickly and putting youth far behind
them. I also love the part about the sun...very fitting to Seattle!
This song is laid down over a jazz/downtempo fusion.
yeah, it's funny because it all becomes
relative
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:42:10 by D
Comment: later danny! (i'm radical)
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:41:40 by jimbo
i'm radical because i think gays should have the exact same rights as straights. no more no less. pretty radical huh? hehe. (that's a radical thought to a lot of people though)
i'd love to stay and contiune this
convo...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:37:46 by D
but i've got so much to do today. talk to ya'll later.
I want to see more discussion of radical gays vs moderates. It all goes
back to the article that Christopher posted from Yale about how we don't
all have to associate ourselves with the same political/social views
because we belong to the same identity group. The extremist can't get past
this.
D
good to see you too Adam...though i'm
heading out
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:39:34 by D
Comment: I check in here rarely now, since it's just not the crowd of nearly three years ago when I first ...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:36:56 by adam in Utah - a.k.a. "blick"
came to the board - but low and behold, I get on here today and Danny, Monty and Stoker are here - old times returned!
I'm just popping into say hello
procrastinating
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:31:15 by D
Comment: Hey Danny
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:30:48 by Jason
what's up?
again...small examples...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:41:45 by D
in the bigger picture of uncontrolled, highway connected, suburbia. I
believe there are good examples of it out there but most suburban
development code encourages bad development and dependance on the car.
Plus, I'll always be a huge supporter of concentrated urban development
because it brings the human tribe so closely together for interaction and
culture.
D
Comment: We agree on some points...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:38:47 by Hawkeye and Eric the Red
But new "Subcities" are developing which concentrate businesses, homes, and services within short distances.
Example 1: In south Orange County (Laguna Beach included, where you have visited) we have limited growth, freeway development, and controlled environmental standards. Irvine is considered to be the new "Subcity" to L.A. reducing traffic and polutants.
Example 2: We successfully fought the conversion of El Toro Marine Air base to a super large Airport (ala LAX). It will now become a park, some homes, some recreation, some business, a protected area, and low income housing.
thanks for responding...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:30:49 by Danny
yeah, I see the split within the gay community building and also feel that
it's inevitable. The more mainstream acceptance that happens, the quicker
the split will happen and the more the extremist will rise. It's sad
because it's doing exactly what you said, alienating straight supporters
and gays themselves. This extremist movement will prove to be destructive
but it's something that wont be avoided.
as for suburbia, you're right that new types of suburban development are
being tampered with but ultimately, these new ways of development are only
a blip on the radar and traditional suburban development contiunes to be
the dominate force. As long as this continues, massive highway subidies
will continue, massive quantities of fuel and resources will be consumed
and hoards of people will continue living in a disconnected, suburban
wasteland. My homework is done.
D
this board tends...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:34:05 by D
to attract moderates...what happened with Jason and Jim?
by the way, it's sad that your uncle
doesn't feel comfortable here anymore...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:33:25 by Danny
That's the last thing I want in this community.
D
Comment: Danny, ....some issues
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:22:37 by Hawkeye and Eric the Red (hair)
Eric has been monitoring this board while I have been teaching at my Univ. Lab. (I'm a grad student labe asst.)
He has brought up some issues that you have talked about in the last week to a fortnight. We decided to post some comments regarding your views, to get your feedback.
First: Regarding my Uncle Jim. As a straight who supports gay causes, he finds that many radical gays are further alienating themselves from the so-called "mainstream" gay groups. He says, and Eric and I agree, that a major split in the gay movement is at hand. He feels this will hurt gay causes among the straight community and cause many gay mainstream couples, etc. to meld back into the closet. This schism is why Uncle Jim doesn't visit this board anymore. He feels that his presence here is not welcomed by some (not all) gays because he is the straight enemy. This is sad.
Second, we live in an emerging community which you have scathingly labeled "suburbia" in very general terms, without looking at specific demographics which show that this is not always a bad thing. Even the author of the book you quote is involved in developing new types of communities and has studied some here in Southern California that are successful and he has adapted them to his view of what new communities should be like. So, if you what to join his general attack on city vs suburbia we think you should do more homework.
We would appreciate some feedback or a debate with you and others on these issues.
Thanks
Augusta Georgia...what a #### hole...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:38:39 by D
not to mention the classic southern "good ole boy" mentality that is at
the heart of what's wrong with the south.
D
Comment: true........
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:34:20 by Stoker
but here is my mindset, you said Augusta and I thought golf!!LOL
we agree on plenty! just not Dallas
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:31:37 by D
Comment: something we agree on!!!
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:22:29 by Stoker
good stuff!!
Re(1): doing alright
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:19:19 by monty
good to hear... any trips planned this week?
heading to Penn tomorrow
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:20:07 by D
Comment: Re(1): doing alright
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:19:19 by monty
good to hear... any trips planned this week?
doing alright
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:13:30 by D
Comment: hey D...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:12:20 by monty
hope you are doing well...
I was around Augusta in a tiny town
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:20:31 by D
Comment:
Hello...
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:19:39 by Tony
How are you? I was curious you said you went to Maine, where in Maine did
you go?
good afternoon people
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Posted on November 17, 2003 at 13:10:43 by D
Jason...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 22:52:12 by Danny
Man, like he said, you're a very intelligent person and I think you do add
alot to this board. I like having you around but I can't keep asking you
to tone it down. People here are obviously upset by the tone you take with
them. Please, one last time, be respectful in the way you respond to
people. Having a differing opinion is great but you can't go degrading
people the way you do. This is the last time I'll ask and then i'll have
to take it from there. I don't want this to go that way. please.
D
Comment: Danny....
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 21:11:17 by monty
Danny,
First, I want to thank you again for creating such a great place for people to come and hang out with others and exchange ideas, get help, and offer help to others. That being said, I know you are aware of the problems in the past with Jason, and I know you have warned him on several occasions to watch how he treats other… he has gotten really good with you, however, he is still a very hateful toward just about everyone else (as you can see from the posts below). I know that this is a real pain in the a*ss for you to have to even deal with… but you are hosting a forum and there is no one else to turn to…Jason attacks just about everyone who post here (besides you)… he is like the sentinel, he just waits and watches until someone posts something that he disagrees with and then he lunges on them like some wild freak animal. If you were having a party in your home and one of the guests was arguing and attacking all the other guests, I would think you would ask them to shape up or leave, and I know you have asked Jason on numerous occasion to treat people with respect…. but he hasn’t and doesn’t. I think it’s time to ask him to leave… Differing opinions are good, and they should be cultivated and encouraged in this forum, but this is not what is happening.
Anyway, thanks for listening and I wish this was something that you didn’t have to deal with, but it’s on your plate… thanks again for all your efforts in creating a place for support and a safe haven for gay people…
Jason, if you are reading this and I’m sure you are.. if you attack me, I will come through my computer and show you god! I feel sorry for you, you obviously have a lot of personal problem, you are also a very intelligent person who keeps current on the issues of the day, as a lot of others here do, but your anger and hatred has gotten the best of you and you have turned into an ugly vile person that hates a world that is different from his.. I hope you can get the help you need…
I've got to run kids...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:24:53 by D
got to go to a meeting.
D
remember to fill me in
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:17:42 by D
Comment: Well, Heading off for now .....
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:15:48 by Steven
Going to grab a bit to eat and then head to the speech with Chris of RW Chicago. It's gonna be interesting!! Talk to you soon Danny.
yep
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:22:18 by D
Comment: have you ever heard of Le vrai monde by Michel Tremblay?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:21:25 by teen_guy20
not really
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:17:23 by D
Comment: have a favorite piece?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:17:06 by teen_guy20
Camus is my favorite French writer
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:14:46 by D
Comment: camus and sartre
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:14:24 by teen_guy20
i'm also a huge fan of albert camus and jean-paul sartre. . . .any mid-twentieth century existentialist. . . La Peste, and Huis-Clos are amazing. . . and much better if read in french
nope, not yet
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:21:57 by D
Comment: Re(1): nope
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:19:49 by Jason
you should check it out, definitely..Morgan Freeman, Tom Sizemore, Jason Lee, among others.. by the way, I don't suppose you got a chance to pick up that CD
nope
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:18:37 by D
Comment: Re(1): it's a nice fire/movie day
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:17:55 by Jason
yeah..I watched a new purchase "Dreamcatcher" last night..have you seen it?
it's a nice fire/movie day
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:17:09 by D
Comment: Re(1): yeah, this weather is exactly how I feel right now!
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:15:49 by Jason
yeah I know..sorry buddy.
yeah, this weather is exactly how I
feel right now!
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:15:11 by D
Comment: Danny
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:13:40 by Jason
Welcome to the board..beautiful day, huh?
yeah, let me guess!
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:13:58 by D
Comment: Everyone I've talked to has loved that book! It should be obvious what my favorite book is... :D
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:11:47 by Gandalf
It reminds me alot of "Brave New
World"
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:09:54 by D
Comment: Big Brother is watching you ;-)
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:01:39 by Stoker
thats a pretty intense book
sounds very interesting
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:07:10 by D
Comment: It.........
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:06:18 by Steven
Basically it goes through a variety of questions that has come up in society about Gays in general. Eric Marcus tries to respond to the questions. It's really intresting.
nope, what's it about?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:03:05 by D
Comment: Just Curious, Has anyone read the book titled, " Is It A Choice" By eric marcus???
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:01:21 by Steven
Sure you will...post later what he
says will you?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:02:39 by D
Comment: Re(1):Yeah he' speaking by himself so hopefully he can get into a good conversation about homosexual
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:01:20 by Adam
only met him once briefly
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:58:13 by D
Comment:Chirs from RW Chicago
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:56:54 by Adam
Just wondering danny if you have ever met Chris RW Chicago....he's speaking tonight and were going.....just wondered what you thought of him????
cool...i'll finish it this
week...haven't had a chance to read it this week
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:55:31 by D
Comment: Suburban Nation......
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:55:01 by Steven
I got a copy of the book at my library. So far i've enjoyed the book alot. It's really intresting.
cool...glad you looked at that and
Ishmael is a very good book...I
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:02:01 by D
read the next one he wrote too and didn't enjoy it that much.
D
Comment: just looked at your favorite. . . .
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:00:54 by teen_guy20
book section for the first time
you're one of the only people I know that has heard of or read Ishmael. . . . .i picked it up about five years ago and loved it. . . it's about time for a re-read actually
I'm finally reading 1984 right now and
a book called "Suburban Nation"
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:58:48 by D
Comment:
that's cool . . . so what is on your
bookshelf these days?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:57:46 by teen_guy20
yeah, didn't like the style at
all...to simplistic for me
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:55:56 by D
Comment: really, are you just. . .
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:52:44 by teen_guy20
not into the whole beat generation style of writing, or was there something about Kerouac?
I tried that but never got into
Kerouac
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:50:06 by D
Comment: favorite book
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:48:19 by teen_guy20
I just finished reading Kerouac's "On the Road" and I couldn't put it down. Cover to cover in less than a day. I loved it.
Anyone else have any good literary recommendations?
It's the south man!
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:03:56 by D
Comment: It's the south man!
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:03:56 by D
Dallas....
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:00:35 by D
is too much big trucks, big hair and big fake tits...it's very "I've got
money and it's new money and I'm tacky as hell and have no class and I
live in a McMansion on a cul-de-sac and love going to the mall"! Didn't
feel it at all.
D
Comment: I'll pass on Houston too....
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:53:37 by Stoker
DC was a great time. You need to come back and let me give you a tour of Dallas!!
Dallas and Houston...I'll pass! but
DC...sounds fun.
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:50:36 by D
Comment: ummmm..........
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:45:44 by Stoker
LA, DC, Houston..2 weekends in a row, Dallas a few times, Baltimore.
Some business some pleasure!!
where have you been?.
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:42:55 by D
Comment: I hear that....
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:42:07 by Stoker
this is the first weekend I have been home in over two months
yeah, when they leave...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:23:49 by D
their little bubble at school and enter the real world and see how
difficult it is to even get someone to look at you, much less listen to
you. That attitude will go quickly.
D
Comment: Even if they don't get it now, some of them will get it later.
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:20:51 by Gandalf
again though, the have every right
to....
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:16:39 by D
feel the way they do. My final point to them though was that they have to
not only think about how they're turning the mainstream off to their cause
but more importantly how they're pushing alot of gays who feel threatened
by their attitude back deeply into the closet.
D
no, the cool thing was that
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:20:14 by D
everyone was stating the way they felt about the situation across the
board. Many sraights stressed their frustration with trying to be
supporters but constantly being made to feel as if they're part of the
problem for being straight.
D
Comment: I'm sure there were people in that audience who really heard you. They probably didn't feel like...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:18:58 by Gandalf
...they could speak up. (They have to live there.) But I'm sure you made a difference to some of those people just by holding you own.
exactly! I don't agree with...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:13:29 by D
extremism on either side because they're both very stubborn and refuse to
listen to what anyone else has to say. Extremism ends up with a stale mate
and turns people off to causes. I tried to argue this point with those
kids and they basically shot me down by insenuating that i'm selling out
by being moderate.
D
Comment: Well, it's the extremism I object to. I find militant conservatism just as bad as militant liberalis
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 13:10:22 by Gandalf
m. No room for discussion!
it was just this crowd...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:55:06 by D
of angry gays who were very anti mainstream...they're motto was Militate,
don't assimilate. I never heard any real reasoning behind their attitude
though they fully have the right to be angry. However, One kid said,
"straights will never fully understand me so why do I want to connect with
them?" That was really painful for me to hear and a growing trend among
some gays. It's quiet ridiculous if you ask me. What's the point in having
acceptance if you want to seperate yourself and why does someone need to
fully understand where you're coming from to support you?
D
Comment: Details, we want details! That sounds like a prime oportunity for fun!
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:51:38 by Gandalf
OK...
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:49:28 by D
I ran into a nest of angry, uber-liberal gay politico militants though and
apparently the school has been having problems with them alienating other
gays and making mainstream supporters feel unwelcome. I unknowingly
stepped into the middle of that fiasco.
D
Comment: How did Maine go?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:46:57 by Steven
glad to be home for a moment..
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:40:31 by D
because i'm sick but not home for long. Spent Friday and Saturday down in
Portland, OR.
D
Comment: How was the trip back home?
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:39:01 by Steven
good afternoon CTOC
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Posted on November 16, 2003 at 12:33:20 by Danny
i've gotta run too
kids...
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:52:51 by D
only have a day at home so need to get some things taken care of.
have a good day.
D
it's my favorite city
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:42:45 by D
the scene tends to be
the best there...
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:51:21 by D
because gays tend to be more accepted and thus blend into everyday
life....much less #####y attitude and jaded life. We went to a pub after
lunch and then that night went to some club down in the meat packing
district.
D
Comment: Re(1): do you mean gay scene?
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:49:27 by matt
Yeah it can be.... but I have been to other cities.... some on the west coast.. to me it doesn't compare to nyc... but maybe it's because I am a new yorker
lol
Where did you guys go?
do you mean gay scene?
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:45:54 by D
if so, I've got gay friends there, but the scene tends to be a little
overwhelming.
D
Comment: Re(1): all of my friends live there but I had a blast
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:45:12 by matt
There is soo much to do here....and the scene is not that bad either
all of my friends live
there but I had a blast
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:42:29 by D
Comment: Hey Danny
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:41:00 by matt in ny
Did you guys enjoy your time in the city?
went to bed after a
brief visit...
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:38:31 by D
to a lame club downtown. I just went because Theo and his girl wanted to
go. I said that because I was so over that night and meant it.
half white, half
filipino..looks latino....
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:49:11 by D
Comment: Danny....
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:47:30 by Steven
You had mentioned that Paul was dark skinned. I was just curious, what nationality is he?
when I say different
people, i mean exactly that, people of different mindsets, etc.
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:47:47 by D
Comment: I meet different people all the time . . .
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:42:54 by Jake
and you've been to Fayetteville, so you know it's not some backwards redneck town, but even the new people you meet don't seem to live up to what you expect. I was at my happiest point when I was going to school in Portland and my neighbors in my apartment downtown were two British twins to the right and guy from South Africa to the left and across the hall a 54 year old dressmaker. They always provided me with hours of good wine and great conversation. Maybe I should move back to Portland, I miss it most in the fall - especially Washington Park.
man...that's why I live
in a city!...
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:37:00 by D
I get bored fast and must be constantly distracted by different types of
people and activities. Different people are key man.
D
Comment: So Danny, tell me this if you have time . . . .
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Posted on November 11, 2003 at 10:32:40 by Jake
How do you spread out do something different if there is nothing different to do. Not really like hanging out, but just in your mind? I read way too much. But honestly, in a place like Fayetteville there's not much room to expand - I know I sound like I'm whining - and because I do understand the bigger picture, I have to get up, get out and do something about it. Suggestions?
thanks man...