you're really
missing the point
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Posted on July 31, 2003 at 10:21:38 PM by Danny
It's not about someone being told to vote for a candidate but rather about
spreading the word. It's especially important for someone like Dean whose
campaign is based heavily on internet word of mouth. It's about people
with a voice using it and this is the point you've missed. No one is
telling anyone to vote for anyone. Did you hear that I told you to vote
for Dean? Nope, I just said who the man is and what he stands for...no
more than that. What's so wrong with that?
I think someone being so angry about this is silly.
D
Comment: Danny
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Posted on July 31, 2003 at 06:47:50 PM by Brian RI
No, I wouldn't feel any differently if you were in a "celebrity endorsement" press release for John Kerry. I'm sure they'll be plenty of those. If Dan from the Real World Miami does the same thing for John Kerry I will think it is equally as silly. Again, while I've supproted Kerry to this point, I couldn't even tell you know if I'd vote for him yet, it's way too early.
Again, I'm not calling anyones viewpoints or voting agendas silly...I'm referring to the need to publicize "celebrity endorsements" as something that matter, silly. Who cares? This isn't a knock on YOU - pull yourself away from it - do you care who John Travolta endorses?
morning guys
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Posted on July 31, 2003 at 10:16:42 AM by Danny
It has its place. I think I made a good argument and obviously it has a
place on the internet. Would I feel comfortable at a rally speaking for
him? Probably not...that's a bit much.
D
Comment: Thanks Lance
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Posted on July 31, 2003 at 09:59:50 AM by Brian RI
I certainly wouldn't remove any rights from anyone expressing their feelings.
I just think its silly. I can't imagine there are people out there that care what celebrities or people from reality shows candidates are, but I guess there are plenty. I just hope this doesn't start a flurry of press releases from ex castmembers of Big Brother on their voting preferences.
be ashamed?
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Posted on July 31, 2003 at 10:14:08 AM by Danny
For what? For putting my views out there, something that everyone has the
right to do. You're missing the point here buddy. This is specifically
aimed at young gay voters and that's the reason this endorsement was made.
I obviously have a connection there and as has been said, if someone votes
for a candidate simply based on my support, then that's their problem. I
would really hate to see people make dumb decisions like that. However, as
the press release says, Dean's campaign is based widely on word of mouth
and that's why I feel it important to throw in my two cents. Probably had
I supported Kerry, You would feel alot better about it.
D
Comment: Celebrity endorsements of Presidential candidates
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Posted on July 31, 2003 at 07:25:09 AM by Brian RI
No offense Danny, but this is worthless and something I'd think you'd be ashamed of. If someone is going to vote for someone because Danny from the Real World says so, should they really be voting? How 'bout letting people come to their own conclusions on candidates.
By the way, who is Teck from Hawaii endorsing? Richard Hatch from Survivor? Joe Millionaire? How will I ever decide on a candidate.
OK boys and girls
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:11:09 PM by Danny
loved talking this evening but i've got to get out of my roaster of a
house and go to the gym. This is my detox/vegetarian/exercise week. Been
having way too much fun lately.
have a good night.
D
he's at work
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:11:31 PM by Danny
Comment: lol...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:10:21 PM by Derek
yea i can tell...your a big fan of something you were apart of lol...anyways...where is your sexy man at? lol tell him i said hi
ah...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:08:16 PM by Danny
you see how much I'm into the RW these days!
D
Comment: Lol...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:03:44 PM by Derek
Real World: Paris...he doesn't talk much on there and he is kind of a buthole sometimes, but i guess it's understandable cause he is stuck in a house with people he is not use to, but still
Thanks buddy...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:02:29 PM by Danny
glad you found the board and it helped you because that's the point. Who
the hell is Simon though?
Comment: lol...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:59:24 PM by Derek
yea i know what you mean, i just always wanted to tell you (not to sound mushy) but one of the main reasons i came out this early was cause of your board and all the people i met on it that made me feel so at home and all....and i wanna be on Real World like you...so i can share my life with young gay teens to help them out cause it has really helped me out seeing you, chris, and simon etc...cause i wanna make a differenceok off my soap box lol
good for you...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:54:52 PM by Danny
I was a good boy until almost 18...well, not fully but mostly.
D
Comment: Lol...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:54:07 PM by Derek
it's ok you look like your still 20
man....
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:52:48 PM by Danny
You're only sixteen! well, that's good advice. sixteen, I barely remember
that now...that was 10 years ago and I don't like that!
D
Comment: O yea...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:50:52 PM by Derek
i got that too...she said i better ALWAYS use a rubber, i tried to tell her i'd be ok...but she was really really worried about the AIDS thing
yeah..
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:49:31 PM by Danny
I think all our parents had that same reaction. My mom is a nurse so she
just flipped out about AIDS.
D
Comment: Naw i won't...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:47:17 PM by Derek
lol the only thing my mom did get sad about was...for 1) my safety cause she knows how a lot of straight people feel about it and she didnt want me to be physically abused or anything and 2) she wanted my grandchildren cause i'm such a good kid and have never been a problem child
Congratulations
Derek...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:45:00 PM by Danny
Now make me proud and don't be one of these angry young people with a chip
on his shoulder!
D
Comment: Danny...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:44:02 PM by Derek
I just thought i'd let you know something you might find interesting or not....I came out to my mom 2 days ago (im 16) and she took it great...we have been getting along like really well
thanks...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:13:08 PM by Danny
I have to admit that it's mostly italian stuff that Paul picked up while
living over there. It's actually mostly yard sale crap but it's very
homey.
take it easy!
D
Comment: Re(1): i've been...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:12:04 PM by Jason
That's cool. By the way, in looking at that pic, your house looks awesome, the decoration I mean, and as you can guess I'm not one of those interior design fabulous fags
i've been...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:09:20 PM by Danny
to Mariner's games and a Hockey match (what a joke!) but I have to admit
that i'm an old school Braves fan. It's in my blood.
D
Comment: Re(1): something is...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:06:15 PM by Jason
Not exactly what I meant! Hey Danny, are you a fan of any of the Seattle sports teams at all?
something is...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 09:01:39 PM by Danny
in the water because there's way too many gay people from there. They came
out of the woodwork after my little announcement.
D
Comment: Re(1): you're crackin me up...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:59:07 PM by Jason
I actually remember it from the show..just kind of stuck in my mind..like what's in the water in THAT town.
you're crackin me
up...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:57:54 PM by Danny
[I forget that i'm from that town...It's funny that people actually know
the name of it.
D]
Comment: Re(1): you're crackin me up...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:59:07 PM by Jason
I actually remember it from the show..just kind of stuck in my mind..like what's in the water in THAT town.
my thermostat...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:53:20 PM by Danny
says it's 90 degrees in my house and no wind to cool me down.
D
Comment: Re(1): and your men?
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:49:33 PM by Jason
HAHAHAHAH!! I love ya' man!
and your men?
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:48:48 PM by Danny
Comment: Re(1): beer and men...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:46:01 PM by Jason
Yeah..I love drinking my beer with a spoon! HAHA
beer and men...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:45:30 PM by Danny
the darker the better!
Comment: Re(1): it's only...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:44:54 PM by Jason
I don't know..some dark beers are just disgusting..but there are a few that are good.
it's only...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:44:15 PM by Danny
Mexico's best beer man! I'm really into dark beers now and can't stand
shelf domestics.
D
Comment: Re(1): Fat Tire
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:43:01 PM by Jason
I don't drink coffee..but I'm not opposed to beer
Fat Tire
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:41:53 PM by Danny
it's one of my fav new beers...yummy. I've become quiet the coffee and
beer snob lately.
D
Comment: Re(1): I have to share...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:40:02 PM by Jason
Sounds amazing Danny..by the way, I love Fat Tire
I have to share...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:38:19 PM by Danny
my camping experience with you guys from this past weekend. We ended up in
Idaho because Glacier National Park was on fire...a massive fire. So we
ended up in northern Idaho at a place called Weir Hot Springs. Talk about
incredible! Imagine sitting in a natural hot spring at night with a good
beer (fat tire) and looking up at the most insane night sky i've seen in a
long time. Very beautiful and just what I needed. Check it out if any of
you are ever in that area though the locals are very protective of it.
It's off Highway 12, which cuts across the northern part of the state.
D
thanks Karl!
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:46:03 PM by Danny
Comment: Re(1): Don't support...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:41:05 PM by Karl Frisch
I just moved from Los Angeles to Burlington, VT to work on Governor Dean's campaign leaving my first real long term political gig behind for a man I believe in. I won't bore this group with why I support the good Doctor, but if you want to check out my site go for it... it's a pretty good summary.
Karl
karl@deanforamerica.com
www.carlwithak.com/dean2004.php
aim.msn.yahoo - karlfrisch
Why I ended up supporting Howard Dean...
Don't support...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:29:23 PM by Danny
"my candidate" but do support him if you really believe in him.
D
it's just a
realization...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:51:51 PM by Danny
that no matter how hard you fight it, it'll always come after you. It's
going to be a major part of our nation's future and it's just something
that we'll have to learn with and cope with. We must keep our defenses up
but thinking that we can go out into the world and clear out all those who
hate is just naive and it's sad and scary to think how many Americans
think that's really what we're going to do.
D
Comment: Re(1): the American dream...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:48:04 PM by Sebastian R
Point. But I am not sure that Europe offers any good examples. The IRA and Basques wan't land. Al Qaeada doesn't want land or a voice in government.
the American
dream...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:43:10 PM by Danny
Comment: Re(1): Support Danny's Candidate - Dean for President!
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:36:46 PM by Sebastian R.
I am just not sure he is tought enough on defense to be a viable candidate.
a broken bone...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:54:06 PM by Danny
would be bad news!
Comment: Re(2): praying...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:53:02 PM by mike
forget the mug. it is strange having to be extra careful all the time whenever you cross the street. the gumby days are over.
praying...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:48:30 PM by Danny
everytime I hike or snowboard, etc...I just pray that nothing happens.
D
Comment: Re(1): ummm...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:45:01 PM by michael
haha, exactly. it's like if you get hit by a bus, you hope the bus comes back and finishes you off, so you don't get stuck with the exorbiant hospital bill.
ummm...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:41:12 PM by Danny
let's just say i'm doing well for myself as well and I know exactly what
you mean. I've had half-ass insurance for 4 years now and the situation is
getting worse.
D
Comment: Re(2): I agree with that...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:35:41 PM by michael
i make 60k a year and am self-employed. I cannot even affordable adequate health coverage. I mean come on!
I agree with that...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:33:40 PM by Danny
the problems are very complex and many issues being overlooked. One thing
is for sure though, something MUST be done because it's about to be a
crisis.
D
Comment: universal health coverage
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:32:18 PM by michael
providing everyone with blanket coverage would absolutely bankrupt this country. the fundamental problem is that healthcare is grossly overpriced in this country. Vioxx and celebrex ($2 a pill)are nothing more than a fancy aspirins (2 cents a pill), yet it is grossly overprescribed. doctors no longer care about patients but about out earning each other. these are problems neither DEMOCRATS nor republicans are addressing.
work 4?
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:25:46 PM by Danny
yeah, it's a lower grade health care system but what use is it when most
people don't have access! We're the only developed nation in the world
without widespread access and there's something really wrong with that.
D
Comment: Re(1): so do we baby
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:23:27 PM by Michael
Baby.... It is a fact. Canadians have to work nearly half a year to cover a lower grade health care system. Americans only have to work 4. All i am saying it that nothing is free. it is all give and take.
so do we baby
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:18:21 PM by Danny
Comment: Re(1): Jason...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:16:56 PM by Michael
Canadians also work half a year to pay taxes.
progress...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:47:52 PM by Danny
yes, one mans progess is anothers regression but acceptance of all people
and fairness is always progress. Many thought that allowing blacks equal
rights was regression. Not many think that anymore.
D
Comment: Re(1): to answer...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:28:22 PM by Jason
Well, didn't mean to jostle you there, but I assumed politics was the order of the day since you posted the Dean for America thing..no offense meant. And a very important point you are missing..while I, as a gay guy, would like to see same sex unions legalized, there are many more americans who don't want that. One man's progression is another's regression. I think gays should have legal unions, recognized by state and federal gov'ts. WITH the same benefits of heterosexual married couples..I don't need to have it called "marriage".
we're definitely
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:32:32 PM by Danny
moving in a direction of acceptance though gays shouldn't be naive enough
to believe that everyone will embrace us. Ask a black person about that
one!
It's coming and probably sooner than any of us think. We'll need a more
progressive government to help make that happen though and gays have to be
a positive part of that change. Angry demanding want get us far. Having
Canada nearby with it's new attitude will really speed things along as
well as television.
D
Comment: Re(1): to answer...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:29:25 PM by Jon
Danny,
With the progress that has happened in Canada, and to a limited extent in this country, do you think that gays are becoming "accepted" in this country? Or are we just getting lured into getting our hopes up to only get bashed.
Your thoughts.
What do you think we should do to better our situation in this country?
Jon
to answer...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:24:18 PM by Danny
first off, I say your're angry because you said two words to me and then
you dove head first into poltics and you always have an "i'm right"
attitude, which is fine. Secondly, who the hell said we should be striving
for socialism? I like parts of it but certainly don't think that we should
be moving in that direction. I'm not naive buddy! Third, I say Canada is
becoming progressive. Look at their latest laws on drugs and same sex
marriage. This while we continue to waste money on a drug war and Bush
announces today that he wants to pass an anti-gay marriage law! That's
call regression my friend.
D
I agree...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:39:55 PM by Danny
It's very much semantics and i'd be all for civil unions if it had the
same legal rights and recognition. However, I don't think Bush would go
for that at all.
D
Comment: Re(1): good for you man...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:38:24 PM by Jason
Danny, I'm all for protecting "marriage". I think a large part of people objection is semantics, strangely enough. Call it a "gay union" with the same legal and tax benefits and I'm happy. I'm not convinced Bush wouldn't support something like a "gay union" that left marriage reserved for a man and woman.
good for you man...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:34:31 PM by Danny
I do respect that. So tell me, how do you feel about what Bush had to say
today about gay marriage. That doesn't fit nicely into your mind set does
it?
D
Comment: Re(1): Seattle...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:29:22 PM by Jason
heheh..Well, it does get to me sometimes, but I have strong convictions.
Seattle...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:26:42 PM by Danny
must drive you crazy. You're one of the most conservative people in the
middle of liberal paradise. It's even often too liberal for me. You must
go mad sometimes.
D
Comment: Re(1): Jason...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:18:29 PM by Jason
I'm not angry at all. What do you base such a sweeping statement on? "The people treat each other much better than here in the states my friend" And define progressive?? Danny, don't misunderstand, I'm not angry at all. I just find it a bit shocking that one can think socialism is something to strive for.
some parts....
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:10:15 PM by Danny
I'm not all socialist but I think parts of it work. Example...Canada. I'd
love to see a more socialist healthcare system.
D
Comment: Re(1): I'm good...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:05:58 PM by Jason
So, you like socialism...
I'm good...
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 08:04:49 PM by Danny
just getting back from camping in Montana and Idaho where it was a bit
cooler. I don't mind this heat though because I know it'll all be over
soon.
As for Hillary, she wont be running this time but for sure next time and
I'll vote for her.
D
Comment: Re(1): funny stuff
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 07:53:51 PM by Jason
Danny...it's HOT ..no other way to put it, I've opened my front door, and am stealing some of the air conditioning! It's beautiful..but just a tad too hot for my taste. How you doing buddy? long time no chat.
funny stuff
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 07:49:43 PM by Danny
Jason, probably compared to your politics he's liberal but actually he's
more of a moderate. He's against gun control and is very conservative with
money. How are you enjoying this "heatwave" here in raintown?
I'm sitting in my house sweltering and I have my Jamaican air full blast!
I have no more windows to open!
D
Comment: Re(1): (no subject)
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 07:13:02 PM by Jason
Hey Danny, you look great as always..but Dean IS a liberal, hate to break it to you.
(no subject)
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Posted on July 30, 2003 at 06:27:31 PM by Dean for
America
Danny Roberts Endorses Gov. Howard Dean for President
"Real World" Star Joins Growing List of Celebrity Endorsements
Washington, D.C. - Danny Roberts has endorsed former Vermont Governor
Howard Dean for the Democratic nomination for President in 2004. Roberts,
best known for his role on MTV's "The Real World - New Orleans," joins a
growing list of gay and lesbian celebrities endorsing Dean, including
television star Chad Allen and rock star Melissa Etheridge.
"I believe that Dean represents a shift back to the center where America
is cooperating with the world to make this a better place for all people,"
Roberts told Out for Dean during a recent interview. "We've gotten too far
away from this in the past few years and it's made this a scary time to
live," he added.
Dean first gained visibility among gays and lesbians when he became the
only Governor to sign into law a state statute recognizing gay civil
unions. But almost all the candidates for the Democratic nomination have
declared their support for similar policies.
Roberts thinks Dean's overwhelming support in the gay community derives
from his stand on other issues. "I love that he makes affordable
healthcare for all Americans a priority and that he sees the intrinsic
need to protect the environment while balancing business interests," says
Roberts. "The man represents many perfect compromises on issues between
the left and right."
Roberts, who has been involved with the Dean for America campaign since
before Dean announced his candidacy, believes that efforts to label Dean a
liberal are political tactics.
"He's truly not radical at all!" exclaims Roberts, who notes that the
Governor kept Vermont's budget balanced for five terms.
Roberts's advice for overcoming the perception that Dean is too liberal to
be elected?: "Spread the word! So much of Dean's support is through word
of mouth and the internet."
Image - Danny Roberts campaigns for Dean for America: http://pontouf.net/images/danny.jpg
don't count on too much
blue...
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Posted on July 24, 2003 at 09:16:55 PM by Danny
but you might get lucky
good weekend
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Posted on July 24, 2003 at 09:12:26 PM by Danny
So i'm off to Montana for a few days and Jhune, I hope you can be the man
of the house while i'm gone. Until next time, I hope you all pass a good
weekend. For those of you who like Queer eye, I'll be producing a new show
soon called City eye for the trailor guy if you're interested.
D
Comment: Have fun D. I will be there in September, save me some blue sky.
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Posted on July 24, 2003 at 09:16:10 PM by chuck-n-tx
see ya
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:10:13 AM by D
Comment: Danny have to go, but nice to see you again :)
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:07:57 AM by Joey
Brussels-bon
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:04:37 AM by D
Comment: It's ok as seen from Brussels
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:03:20 AM by Jeremy
my message...
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:09:32 AM by D
got crossed with sivarts...didn't send hugs....I actually asked if we have
to people from Philly now?
D
Comment: Great from philadelphia!
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:04:21 AM by Andrew
excellent
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:08:35 AM by D
my friend's threw me a post bday bonfire party last night and it was so
beautiful to watch the sunset behind the Olympic mountains and the sound
and the weather is perfect! We're having a "heatwave" in the low eighties.
D
Comment: It's great! how's seattle?
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:06:54 AM by Joey
and how's the ATL
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:06:16 AM by D
Comment: like the ya'll
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:05:28 AM by Joey
good morning ya'll
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Posted on July 23, 2003 at 10:02:05 AM by Danny
had to throw that Georgia morning in! How's the world this wednesday?
D
Got to go too...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:07:46 AM by D
gotta get alot done so i've got to run as well. have an excellent day
around the world.
a tout a l'heure!
D
gut
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:07:06 AM by Danny
Comment: NA! Da ist schon einer....LOOK Danny...>
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:05:37 AM by Max
Hey, wie gehts?
very intuitive Caboy!...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:02:04 AM by D
is it true?
Comment: I believe...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:03:53 AM by caboy
that this person was embarrassed by some posts earlier today and is trying to re-identify himself, but if I am incorrect I apologize, and if I am correct, this board is about acceptance and growing, so if this is Joey please do not hide, you seem like a really nice person to talk with....
hey Zach...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:01:00 AM by Danny
welcome to the board...you're at least the second Zach around.
D
Comment: Hi my first time posting
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:57:39 AM by Zack
love it!
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 12:00:16 AM by D
Comment: Re(1): no way...if...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:59:23 AM by mike
oh i see well, that is cool. well i guess you like the big apple than right
no way...if...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:57:06 AM by D
we ever moved to the Northeast...it would only be for NYC. We're not cold
weather kids.
D
Comment: hey danny wanted to know
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:55:33 AM by mike
if u got to look at all your birthday wishes and if u and paul would ever consiser moveing to nj or pa
Birthday wishes and the bday
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:54:50 AM by Danny
yes, thank all of you guys for the bday wishes, etc. I really enjoyed them
all and was very sweet of everyone. My birthday was awesome because I
spent the weekend touring around the San Juan Islands off the coast of
Washington State with some friends and Paul. Saw dolphins, sea otters,
eels, deer and bald eagles. Very cool trip and beautiful.
D
Comment: Danny
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:52:26 AM by Jason
Good morning bud, how was the camping?
non! tu es le seul Allemend ici
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:57:59 AM by D
c'est le...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:55:29 AM by Danny
nouveau langue de CTOC?
Comment: O boys. Nous pouvons parler francais si vous preferez.
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:47:54 AM by Max
a Seattle...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:52:00 AM by D
c'est vrai en anglais aussi mais j'essais d'eviter ca a cause du fait
qu'il y a tant d'etrangers sur la messagerie.
Mais, je comprends le Francais Phonetique a cause du fait que j'ai etudie
le suject a l'universite et ca m'aide.
D
tres cool...un homme international
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:59:12 AM by D
Jeremy...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:50:06 AM by D
tu viens d'ou...t'es Americain, oui?
D
Comment:
non...c'est juste...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:53:10 AM by D
que ton nom est Anglophone mais maintenant je me souviens que tu viens
d'Angleterre? J'ai raison?
D
Comment:
Non, Belge
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:51:24 AM by Jeremy
Pourquoi, j'ais l'air Américain ? ;-)
Comment: Re(1): demander a tout le monde?
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:49:19 AM by Jeremy
C'est parce que tu es très mignon et que tu es passé à la télé. C'est aussi con que ça !
demander a tout le monde?
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:46:45 AM by Danny
je sais pas...demander aux restes de CTOC. mais ton <<Francais
electronique>> me fait rire...comme <<pkoi>> et <<plusq>>.
D
Comment: c vrai !!
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:42:46 AM by thibault
en fait , c juste la salle du haut qui brulait , et apparemment , le feu etait assez petit ! la derniere fois que j ai allumé ma télé , il etait circoncis ... donc plusq de soucis a se faire , la dame de fer est tjs la !! je peux te poser une question ? pkoi ets ce que tout le monde est tout excité des que tu arrives ?
big burn
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:40:38 AM by Danny
oui, il n'y a pas beacoup qui peut bruler sauf peut-etre pour les
restaurants, etc.
D
Comment: eiffel tower thing
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:38:53 AM by thibault
the eiffel tower is not relly burning .. it's just the top of it , which was burning !! and i saw on TV it was over ..
pas de raison...
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:49:26 AM by D
sauf, c'est juste mon avis!
Comment: lol how come!?
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:48:22 AM by Max
Maximo
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:47:25 AM by Danny
it's the coolest little German in the world.
Comment: the world is still rotating...hey man
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:44:49 AM by Max
good morning CTOC
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Posted on July 22, 2003 at 11:36:37 AM by D
how's the world going? So what's this I hear that the Eiffel tower is on
fire?
Was nice to meet you yesterday if you're around Sean and thanks for that
beautiful mug with Bush's mug on it.
D
gotta run...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 03:45:00 PM by Danny
i'm getting way too distracted and have to get some things done. have a
good one kids.
D
nope...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 03:42:32 PM by D
don't have any plans...would love to see Bjork though. Not sure if i'll
even be in town through most of it.
D
Comment: Seafair
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 03:27:09 PM by Jason
Hey Danny, how's it going? Do you have any plans to participate in any of the Seafair activities or events?
thanks Jhune...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 03:43:01 PM by D
as always, greatly appreciated.
D
no...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 03:44:08 PM by D
i've been home several times but that was my first real experience being
out and about in Atlanta since I left. usually I just go and visit my
parents for a few days and then fly out.
D
Comment: Me too!
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 03:00:40 PM by Joey
Btw, saw you at Pride, was that your first time back to Atlanta...since you left?
love that nieghborhood
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:59:33 PM by d
Comment: Sad, but true!
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:58:05 PM by Joey
Agreed! I've actually never been to Seattle, but I've heard! Va Highlands?My uncle and his partner live in the Va Highlands....
expensive...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:55:45 PM by D
the city is getting expensive but it still pales in comparison to Seattle.
I could be living in the Highlands there compartive to what i'm paying to
live in a crap neighborhood here.
Comment: ATL
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:53:24 PM by Joey
I agree about the ghetto's of Atlanta. I also agree that Atlanta has made so many good changes. I really love it here. I used to live near blake's at 10th & Piedmont...but it got too expensive. I was born in Norcross.....
nope, just...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:46:33 PM by D
a hip urban bar, which meant a mixed crowd...that's what i always look
for. I used to hit Nomanclature and MJQ when I lived there with the
occasional Blakes thrown in.
D
Comment: ?
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:37:18 PM by Joey
Was the bar a gay bar?
that's cool...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:50:14 PM by D
i live in a similar part of Seattle though no where near as bad as that
was. What's considered bad in Seattle is vanilla compared to the ghettos
of Atlanta. I love hearing that the city is cleaning up so fast. It's
amazing that in just 3 years so much has changed for the better.
D
Comment: Exactly!
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:47:37 PM by Joey
it has really changed. it was a very rough neighborhood before, things are really changing...lots of new condos and shops and stuff. it even has a trendy name East Atlanta Village
oh...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:45:33 PM by Danny
you just mean the general area around East Atlanta. The mill and all that?
I do know the area. It was all a diamond in the rough when I left.
D
Comment: Re(1): nope...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:35:45 PM by Joey
it is pretty cool. sort of like Little Five Points....
nope...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:32:36 PM by Danny
don't even know what it is. East Atlanta was the new rising hot spot as I
left. I used to love going to a bar there but it has changed names now.
D
Comment: Re(1): the ATL
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:31:35 PM by Joey
I just moved to the East Atlanta Village...ever been?
the ATL
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:30:11 PM by Danny
let's talk about it...i miss it. What part of the city do you live in?
D
Comment: Thanks!
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:28:56 PM by Joey
Thanks Danny, it's nice to be here. You've created a great space.....
Welcome...
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Posted on July 17, 2003 at 02:25:44 PM by Danny
to the board Jeremy and Joey. I love seeing someone from Atlanta
representing and love having more international people here. Hope to see
you around alot.
D
have a good evening...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:20:59 PM by D
all you kids, including you Jason, have a good evening. Until next time.
D
it's a challenge...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:07:26 PM by Danny
that'll only make you grow and you'll be better for it.
D
Comment: I hear ya
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:06:05 PM by Philly Sean
It's kinda exciting not to be tied down. I'm excitied about moving, but kinda nervous too. All my fam is here, and I know 1 person, so it will be a challenge, but I'm down for it. I got the dog, he's my moving partner.
ME
who knows?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:04:14 PM by D
So much could happen in the next year that probably work will take us
somewhere. I'm not done here yet though!
D
Comment: where do you wanna live eventually?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:02:12 PM by Philly Sean
don't remind me...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:08:37 PM by D
of my least favorite moments in Seattle! If I do have another event like
that, our house will immediately go up for sale and we're outta here!
D
Comment: Re(1): I haven't and wont...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:03:04 PM by WILL
cool, well we're still keeping our eyes out hoping to bump into you somewhere. I promise not to come running at you while you're driving though or accuse you of taking over "my" territory. hahaha.....
I haven't and wont...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:59:37 PM by D
even after I leave i'll always have good memories of this place.
D
Comment: hey D, don't give up on us Seattlites. : )
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:57:58 PM by WILL
hey man, it sucked hearing about some of the lame asses you've met or had to deal with up here! I've lived here most of my life and have met some of the coolest people, ones that have become life long friends now. hang in there buddy.
i'm only joking
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:55:09 PM by D
Comment: why not?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:53:57 PM by eric
don't do it now
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:51:01 PM by D
Comment: danny....
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:48:03 PM by eric
What advice would you give someone trying to get on to the real world?
Sunday night
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:44:54 PM by D
Comment: D, when you gettin back from camping?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:43:38 PM by Philly Sean
this #### board...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:11:00 PM by D
my message got crossed with another one but you're right about Birmingham.
You don't have to agree with me because I know i'm right. I've actually
lived in both places and know it for a fact.
D
Seattle...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:50:40 PM by Danny
has a special breed of liberalism though that's highly rooted in
fanatically naive dreams of a hippie utopia. This all created by people
that live in a Seattle bubble and who know so little about the real crap
that goes on out there in this big world. I'm saying this and I am a
liberal for the most part!
D
Comment:Re(1): not too...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:44:31 PM by Jason
Well, as you know, I'm not exactly a liberal..so, it's particularly annoying to me when it's so predictable..but, it's the same in any big city..most all big cities are largely liberal.
not too...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:41:46 PM by D
liberal...it's just boring when everyone is so predictably liberal. You
almost know a person's views here before they open their mouth...even
though many of my views fall into the same category!
D
Comment: Danny--I do agree...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:39:03 PM by Jason
That Seattle is too liberal.
what do you mean?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:00:20 PM by D
Comment: Everyones freaking me out
about my move there. Posted by Philly Sean
I love our debates...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:58:54 PM by Danny
I'm sorry man but that's one thing I really do miss about Atlanta...it's
the diversity of people. Beyond brown skin there are so many types of
people from so many walks of life. It's way more difficult to find that
here. That's what I'm saying. Like I said before, you almost know what a
person will be like before they even open their mouth, not that they're
bad people. Just predictable. One of the main reasons Atlanta is more
diverse because it has a more diverse representation of companies from TV
and music, finance, travel all the way across to standard industrial
production. Seattle is much more limited in it's job offerings.
D
Comment: Re(1): didn't say that Jason
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:55:08 PM by Jason
I understand man.. thanks for the clarification. And Seatte, by no means, is a perfect utopia, but I like it
didn't say that Jason
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:53:17 PM by D
i never said either is better my friend...i'm only defending my home. Did
I mention anything about better? Diverse, yes, better, no. I only bash
Seattle, not because I don't like it because I do...I bash it because
everyone here is so blind to it's faults. People here want to imagine that
they live in this perfect utopia and it's just not. that's all Jason.
Comment: Re(1): listen to what you're saying...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:50:08 PM by Jason
Oh, I forgot more land area, and population = better. Take it easy big guy..Some of us don't care for the Seattle bashing you do quite freely, no offense.
listen to what you're saying...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:48:02 PM by Danny
even though you're wrong about it just being black, you're defending
Seattle by saying it's so Asian. OK, once again, there's one group being
represented. If Atlanta isn't diverse "because it's only black", then
Seattle isn't diverse for being only Asian. Regardless, you're wrong about
Atlanta...it's not some backwoods southern town like so many want to
believe it is. It's the financial and cultural capitol of the south and
extremely international thanks to the business presence there. Do you know
how many companies have their headquarters there? It's also about twice
the size of Seattle and has far more people. I get so sick of people here
looking at Atlanta as if it were inferior.
D
Comment: Re(1): read below my friend
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:42:27 PM by Jason
I have been to Atlanta once, in fairness, I have never lived there as you have..but it seems to me that a city on the coast, so close to California and to an Asian port would be much more diverse than a city in the deep south..so..I will have to defer to your opinion on this one, since you have lived there and I haven't.
read below my friend
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:40:37 PM by D
Comment: Danny--care to weight in about diversity of Seattle?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:33:18 PM by Jason
I was stating below that while Atlanta is blacker than Seattle, that doesn't make it more diverse, right?
Rockmart...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:43:15 PM by D
is in the NW...that's where I grew up but in Atlanta I lived in the
highlands. It's funny too hear you say that about Sundays. Try here where
the city shuts down at 2am and is completely dead except for weekends. I'm
not gonna Seattle bash though...they're just two very different places.
D
I love...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 04:09:30 PM by D
driving around the city at night...the skyline is beautiful and lit well.
D
Comment: Re(1): why?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:35:23 PM by Joey in Atlanta
I agree with everything you said. I just recently moved back to Atlanta. The hardest thing for me is the partying, I get so TIRED. The bars where I lived before, Minneapolis, closed at 1am! Atlanta has truly come a long way. I'm glad to be home. Altough, the blue laws...bars closing at 12am on Sundays...needs to go! What part of the state is Rockmart?
why?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:30:54 PM by D
well...many reasons. I was sick of the summer heat first off. It had
always lived in and around there my entire life so wanted new challenges
and surroundings. I knew way too many people in town and it as always the
same old crap. Since then though, Atlanta has made massive improvements. I
never thought the city would impress me as much as it recently has. The
fact that so many people are living downtown now is awesome and the
nightlife is kickin my but. Forget the fact that it has so much good food
and good restaurants. I'm really missing it now.
D
Comment: Question For Danny.
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:18:03 PM by Joey
Just wondering what made you move from Atlanta.
that's funny...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:31:22 PM by D
Comment: Oh Danny.. once again... one question.
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:14:10 PM by george
Are you the guy in "Luis Miguel" Music Video "Amor, Amor, Amor" ???
Jason...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:38:57 PM by D
have you ever been to Atlanta? we're not only talking about color here...asians
are one group...Atlanta has so many groups...so much so that gay bars are
split up into ethnic groups. Have you ever been to a latino or black gay
bar? beyond color we're talking about political views and nationalities.
I've met one French person in Seattle in a year and half and hand full of
Brits. I hardly call that diverse. Atlanta beats this cities#####when it
comes to diversity.
D
Comment: Re(3): his name is...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:10:57 PM by Jason
It's more diverse..first of all, it's a coastal city, we have almost EVERY kind of asian here, I can't believe that one would say Atlanta has more diversity.
no Jason...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:37:03 PM by D
that's not what I mean...this city is overwhelmingly, white and liberal.
D
Comment: Re(1): his name is...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:05:27 PM by Jason
Danny..by "more diverse" do you mean, more black people? I disagree, I think Seattle is really way more diverse. It's not as black, but I don't think black = diverse
his name is...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:03:02 PM by D
Quancy and he works for Starbucks...go figure! I have more back in Atlanta
though, which is a far more diverse city.
D
Comment: Danny--your friend
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:01:00 PM by Lance
You mentioned once that you had a gay black friend here in the city that was a pretty cool guy. You said I should meet this guy.
Who is this person?
wow...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:00:20 PM by D
are we going to have ctoc meetup support groups now!? How funny would that
be. We could have a big one in Seattle!
D
Comment: Im going to San Francisco CA next week
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:58:38 PM by george
I wish i could meet any ctc member there. !!!
It's the mammie syndrome...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:59:20 PM by D
We've got to get passed Mammie and show a broader picture.
D
Comment: Re(1): Danny- stereotypes
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:57:57 PM by Lance
Greg,
I completely agree with you yet feel that these representations are still happening today.
Of course, they were extremely exacerbated in the 50's and 60's, yet they have evolved over time and are still in full effect.
agreed...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:58:34 PM by D
I look at it the same way, especially coming from the South and
understaning so poignantly how these steretypes harm people. Again though,
it's ok to show these gay steretypes because they do exist...just show the
other side of the coin. That's all I ask.
D
Comment: Danny- stereotypes
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:56:02 PM by Goonie Greg
Sorry to be adding to the mix so late (had class this am). Just wanted to say that I agree with you hands down on this. I absolutely love your "monkey in a cage" analogy. Personally, I've always compared how gays are shown on film and tv today to the way African Americans and Native Americans were shown in the 50's, 60's. The "token" black man or "token" Indian was always some cliched stereotype that was never close to any true representation of a person from that ethnicity. I can't wait til the day when we look back on tv today with the same feelings of disgust about poor representation of gays on tv today, not unlike those feelings we have about 1950's, 60's film and tv.
didn't need to...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:01:51 PM by D
that's how weak it is. I saw enough in previews and the articles i read.
D
Comment: you didn't watch the show so you must be assuming:)
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 03:00:50 PM by Christopher
they're not...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:46:45 PM by D
just not as many smokers. I wish Washington would enact Calis law on
smoking in public places. Belltown pizza is some of the best pizza and
salads in Seattle.
I just hate that smokey dungeon they call their dining room
D
Comment: Danny and Philly Sean
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:45:10 PM by Jason
Hey Danny..ever go to Belltown Pizza? Great pizza, and great place to sit outside as well. Sean, just to add to Danny's point..I THINK the bars up on top of Queen Anne are smoke free, they seemed that way when I was up there a month or so ago.
unfortunately...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:51:16 PM by D
stereotypes are often based at least somewhat in fact. We just don't have
to focus on them.
D
Comment: Wow
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:47:26 PM by DotCom
I totally agree with that. However, I don't agree w/ what the media is getting society used to. The stereotypes of gay people bother me alot. Hell, stereotypes in general bug me. I think that society just needs to get used to the fact that there are people out there that appear straight but definately aren't. It's like the MIB movies: there are aliens among us and we don't even realize it.
very true...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:50:05 PM by D
I think and hope you're right. It's all happening so fast that it's scary.
I also hope that young people don't take it all for granted though or
adopt this #####y, "the world owes me something now" attitude. I'll fight
that until the end.
D
Comment: Posted earlier...Just a thought
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:44:25 PM by Z
It is my observation that because homosexuality is gaining so much media attention, people in general are becoming more accepting due to constant exposure. As people become willing to accept it, it will be easier for closeted individuals to come out. The stereotyping that occurs with some of this exposure will mitigate when friends and family members learn the people they love are gay. We are a people of tolerance. Although it's hard to change the collective mind of a society, eventually we adjust to repetition. I'm happy that we are no longer a taboo subject.
i'm a huge fan
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:42:37 PM by Danny
Comment: Any Moby Fans out there?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:42:06 PM by GGGuy
Hi
Today I bought “Play: The B Sides” ( didn’t even know there is a b sides album) and I just love it. Moby is a real genius. Especially “Sunday” (not the one from the Album 18, it’s a different song) is just fantastic. “Running” is also really great.
So what do you think of Moby? I just love every bit of music he ever made, his sad songs (My Weakness, One of the Mornings and so many else are just perfect) .I can’t wait till he’s releasing a new Album (whenever that might be)
yes and....
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:44:31 PM by D
couldn't wait for it to end.
Comment: Re(1): yes...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:43:56 PM by Lance
Did you see the opening band, Guster?
yes...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:43:09 PM by D
i took Paul for his bday to the show last year. I'm pretty burnt out on
Mayer now though.
D
Comment: John Mayer
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:39:43 PM by Lance
Did you see JOhn Mayer when he was in Seattle?
Thanks Aaron...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:37:45 PM by D
glad to see you're a recycler and glad to know there are no deep Cher
convos here!
D
Comment: So true...I frequent a handful of other discussion groups, and...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:36:43 PM by Aaron
I'm so let down by the majority of them...This is the only one that I make it a point to visit every day, as this board is generally made up of some very open-minded and interesting individuals...And there are never any deep discussions having to do with Cher...I'd love to stay and chat, but I have to go drop off my recycling -- my local recycling center is only open for three hours a week...I've always been kind of amused by that...
I just have to say...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:23:04 PM by Danny
that I think it's amazing that this board is bringing together so many
people of differences. Culturual, interests, ages, genders, masculine,
feminine, and so on. completely amazing.
D
et...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:36:46 PM by Danny
le reste de nous a quelque point dans la vie. C'est un message pour les
jeunes du monde et pas juste la France.
D
Comment: j'aime cet chanson, parce-que je comprende la message totalment
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:33:54 PM by Jag
ah...je..
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:29:40 PM by D
le connais mais l'ai oublie. C'est amusent d'etre jeune and con...les deux
vont toujours ensemble! C'est probablement le point de la chanson, non?
D
Comment: c'est "stupid"
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:27:40 PM by Jag
con?
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:26:23 PM by Danny
c'est un mot que je connais pas?
D
Comment: si tu veux, il y a un chanson d'il s'appelle <<jeune et con>> ben, c'est très bien!
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:20:06 PM by Jag
have no opinion either way
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:15:33 PM by D
Comment: Danny, est-ce que tu ecoute a la musique français? il y a un chanteur qui s'appelle Saez...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:11:43 PM by Jag
est-ce que tu connait son musique?
salut
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:28:11 PM by Danny
Florence...salut et merci...il y a beaucoup de Francais sur la messagerie aujourd'hui...plus que n'importe autre. T'as quel age?
D
hi youComment:
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:09:52 PM by Florence a Dijon
bonjour danny j'ai entendu parler de toi tu es populaire en france avec le real world. j'ai vu des photos de toi dans ce website et tu es trs cuuuuuuute!!!!
je suis trs contente d'avoir rencontré david c'est comme un frre pour moi je l'ADOOOOORE. je suis contente d'avoir pu te parler.
even...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:45:30 PM by D
if you don't have anything to say, just listen and learn or start a
seperate convo.
D
Comment: Re(1): don't
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:43:11 PM by dreamer
yeah, i know how to tell who is on.but i sort of thought everyone on was being a little too political for me i guess. i don't really know what to say in those conversations. everyone has opinions and i just sort of sit here... and though i might say i vanish, i don't. lol. i'm secretly lurking in case anyone does come around who's just looking to say hi.
oh, and i wasn't trying to be dramatic. hehe.
don't
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:32:55 PM by D
be so dramatic my friend. you see who is on by whose posting right now.
D
I'd say...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 02:11:29 PM by Danny
Honda is probably the most responsible company but as someone said before,
most European companys are equally responsible. I'd say that any American
company is the least responsible because most of them want to avoid all
the laws that are inevitable. Ford is the one that's starting to take the
first baby steps.
D
yes...
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 01:42:56 PM by Danny
it's true and shows like this should be taken with a grain of salt.
However, how can we as gays ever expect to be taken seriously when
increasingly we're stereotyped as being one type of person that is "to be
laughed at". Yes, you guys are loving this show because it makes you
laugh...it's comedy. And that's how America will look at all of us
increasingly, as something to laugh at like monkeys in a cage at the zoo.
Sorry guys, but that's not the way I want to be seen. Shows like this are
fine and I don't have a problem with them. I just have a problem with the
fact that this is all TV can offer us and portray us as. Like everything
else, they're going for what's easy to sell and put out there and it's a
shame.
D
Comment: Re(1): Queer Eye
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 11:22:11 AM by Lance
I made some of the very same comments to friends last night, and they told me I should lighten as it was all in pure fun.
They compared it to the image of the beer gut straight man, watching sports continuously—essentially saying that there are profiles for every type of person, yet caveats exist within each of those groups.
Danny, how would you respond to something like this?
Queer Eye
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 10:08:37 AM by Danny
I didn't see it but I have one thing to say about it. Could we please stop
with the stereotypes?! This is like creating a show called "Black eye for
the white man" as if all blacks have a certain style and cutlture to pass
onto their helpless white counterparts. This ridiculous show assumes that
every gay man is all style and every straight man can't help himself. I
know plenty of straight guys who can run circles around some gay men out
there. Who the hell said that gay men have so much style? I think the
oppposite is true because i've seen plenty of gays who have 0 class and
ability to dress themselves. Coming from the south and remembering so much
of what was gay there, the word gaudy comes to mind.
D
mr hostel
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Posted on July 16, 2003 at 10:04:14 AM by Danny
nice....welcome to the city and i'm glad to see that i'm not the crazy one
here! You're backing up my observations of the city as well. Hope you
enjoy your stay and please let us know your final thoughts.
D
Comment: Seattle
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Posted on July 15, 2003 at 04:21:22 PM by wally
I am just visiting Seattle, thinking of moving here and just checkin' the town out. This does correspond with Danny's comments, and pretty much had the same thoughts. I am staying at a hostel in seattle (the international), they have a good size kitchen, but yet last night when I wanted to actually cook something, I was at a loss of where I had seen a supermarket. This was late so I could not go to Pike's Market (it was after 5). It was very disconcerting, where was the staple of American living, the supermarket?
I had a discussion with an English fellow whom just got deported because he was canned from his summer job. We realized that one the English are a drinking culture, beer goes with everything. Yet, Americans are an eating culture. No matter what you do there is a hostess cake that is perfect for it. Interesting to note, but it did not satisfy my stomach at the time. The conclusion is that I ended up eating out, again. Could be worse though in retrospect, it could have been the spanish inquisition with service by Cardinal Biggles.
As for the bums and crackhead/crazies. Some of them are scary. Now I am from NYC. I have been to some of the worst areas of those parts. Once a black guy came up to our drill rig with a shotgun and said, "You better leave, someone is going to get killed hea." Swear to God. Anyway, it puts me on the defensive where ever I get propositioned by them. However, I have not been on the bus. I have travelled everywhere in Seattle by foot. Mainly downtown, Capital Hill, Universit