i'll post more details later...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 11:06:46 by D
I have to speak to my agent first.
D
Comment: Danny, question about tour info...
IP: 65.31.246.42
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 11:04:52 by Mitch
Your coming to Wisconsin to Speak, where is it that your speaking?
he's flipping his lid...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 11:02:44 by D
but didn't exactly find out that Paul's gay in the best way.
D
Comment: Paul...how'd your brother react?
IP: 24.164.180.47
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:59:37 by tony
Will...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 11:06:22 by D
Thanks for stating the facts...though Beto doesn't mean any harm...this
person is basing their beliefs on ignorance and the idea that gays have
grown up in a bad childhood. It's just not true. mine was no worse than
gay counterparts and better in some ways. I've got gay friends who had
excellent childhoods with everything a child needs from support to love
and an excellent bond with thier parents and family with NO molestation.
It doesn't mean that some gays didn't have a bad childhood but so did alot
of straights.
D
Comment: Beto's Theory From Below
IP: 152.163.252.40
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:58:29 by Will
Beto: one of the biggest questions in developmental psychology today is the "Nature vs. Nurture" issue, as I am sure you are familiar with. Psychologists have been arguing for years on what affects human beings more: their environment or their genetics. The most comprehensive answer to date is that it is almost 50/50. However, obviously some traits depend more on genetics (eye color, skin color, height) and some more on environment (senescence, personality, etc.). As a current psychology major in college, I have reviewed much of the research on sexuality and the most held theory is that it is mostly based on genetics. Two unique studies, one in California and one in London, yielded results of possible genetic differences in heterosexuals and homosexuals DNA on a specific gene. To credit you, though, indeed I do not doubt that some homosexual individuals out there have been adversely affected by their not so cordial environments they were raised in. However, it is ignorant to assume that most, or even a majority, of homosexual people actually chose their lifestyle becaues of a hard childhood. From a non scientific standpoint, and I am sure Danny, Paul, and all the other gays on this board could let you know, I don't recall any point in my childhood when I was molested or put in any trying situation as such. Also, I can't remember when I started to like other guys. It seemed that I was always attracted to them. So, in your theory, as a young child (around 4 or 5), I would have the cognitive ability to look into my not so distant past, be adversely affected by it, and at that point (in my toddler mind) choose to be homosexual. The idea seems outlandish. Read up some more, bro, and I'm sure you may take on a different opinion.
Will
Dean 2004
(no subject)
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:51:46 by HAPPY NEW
YEAR...
...NOTHING LIKE STARTING OUT THE NEW YEAR WITH YOUR BROTHER FINDING OUT
YOUR GAY ON TV.
WE'RE KICKIN IT IN CANADA FOR THE NEW YEARS AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THROUGHT
THE 2" OF SNOW DUMPED ON SEATTLE LAST NIGHT
HOPE ALL OF YOU HAVE RESOLUTIONS YOU ARE PREPARED TO BREAK BY DAY THREE!
BE SAFE, DONT DRINK AND DRIVE!
JUST DRINK AND PASS OUT IN A GUTTER AT LEAST YOUR ONLY HURTING YOURSELF
SPEAKING FROM PRIOIR EXPERIENCE!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
PAUL
got to get my groove on...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:12:10 by D
need to get moving and get things ready if we can make it to Vancouver. I
hope you all have a safe and excellent New Year's Eve and party it up.
much love,
D
AGAIN BETO...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:59:39 by d
the flaw in your theory is that you're assuming most gays have had a bad
childhod and it's just not true. Some have had bad childhoods but no more
than straight people. Most of my friends had excellent childhoods and are
stable and balanced.
D
well i'll respond...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:11:14 by D
your theory is interesting but not necessarily true. I might be tempted to
believe you if I didn't know way too many people who have had a relatively
easy and well adjusted life and who are completely balanced. yeah, alot of
gays are screwed up in the head but so are just as many straights. The
fact is that so many gays are screwed up in the head from dealing with a
society that doesn't accept them. So basically, your theory is flawed.
much love,
D
Beto...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:05:21 by D
I want to hear more on why you believe that
Very interesting...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:00:45 by D
well first off, yes, Paul has a regular job and a fairly regular life that
he leads. For the New Year, we're heading to Vancouver to party.
As for your theory, that's very interesting...what made you come to tha
conclusion.
D
Comment: thanks danny
IP: 67.10.100.100
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 09:58:35 by beto
for that info and for responding. I was wondering what is a typical day for you and paul? do you guys have regular jobs? How do you guys plan on spending new years eve?
I also want to comment that i do not believe that homo/bi/ sexuality is normal as compared to the majority of society (straight). I think that most people chose to be that way, some are victims of a traumatic experience, and very little are actually born that away(highly unlikely). I am not trying to put anyone down please understand that. However, i do consider the fact that human beings as a whole is a working progress and i do consider the fact that maybe being a human being is more complex than we think and not just black and white in terms of sexuality and among other things. I am trying to keep an open mind about this and watching danny and paul the other night i thought to myself that they look very much in love and that there is something truly special in their relationship. I thought that it just wasn't physical, but deeper and more profound in reality. I saw two lost souls that have found each other and have become one. I thought it was beautiful and made me think that love is love no matter what shape or form it takes.
my post got crossed...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:02:27 by D
basically, i said for him to stay away from the mainstream gay community
here...it's bad. Even the gay community center is under investigation for
misusing funds and supporting a bathhouse.
your cousin needs support from people who really know him and care about
it.
D
Comment: help
IP: 65.102.116.236
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 09:57:25 by wildcats
I was wondering if there are any helpful groups or speakers to listen to in Seattle for gay men. My cousin is almost 21 and going through a very rough time (in with the wrong crowd) and he needs some good support, besides our family he needs to know that someone else cares besides us.
nuts!
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 10:04:19 by D
That's freakin amazing. i almost think she's a puppet being manipulated!
Lance man, you're the kind of internet links!
D
Comment: this little girl is awesome
IP: 66.235.38.227
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 09:54:58 by Lance
http://robpongi.com/pages/comboMOKINHI.html
not really...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 09:52:56 by D
i'll be traveling for a show...but not about nature...
D
Comment: Let me speculate....Danny......
IP: 209.179.238.212
Posted on December 31, 2003 at 09:52:14 by Uncle Jim
After reading Paul's post to me yesterday.........I'll speculate as to what your change in direction might become.
I think you MAY be in line for being the Host/Narrator of an environmental/nature program for television (PBS, or ?). That's why you would have to travel "ALL OVER"....the world? USA? leaving Paul at home to be consoled by everyone here and in Seattle......LOL.....just kidding...
Am I warm???
Stoney...
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Posted on December 31, 2003 at 09:44:37 by Danny
hopefully you'll see this later but I didn't get a chance to tell you
earlier but thanks for the Christmas present! you're too sweet!
D
OH YEAH IVE GOT WORK TO DO...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 16:00:31 by PAUL
...HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING, AND WRITE TO YOU
REAL SOON.
PAUL
just kidding!
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:46:40 by D
it's back up! Thanks so much Jhune!
D
Hopefully my site...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:45:57 by D
will be back up by tomorrow.
www.countrytoconcrete.org
peace!
it took about...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:45:12 by D
a week for all the roomies to figure it out... I hated the way that whole
"secret" thing happened. I never meant for that to blow up and be a big
deal. It was really corny if you ask me. she bugged the hell out of me for
a few days until she figured it out. I think she was the first.
D
Comment: "I've got a seeecret"
IP: 207.90.99.55
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:42:54 by rob
So how long did you bug Melissa with that, Danny? She obviously was dying to know and I think it's funny as hell to watch! How soon after you guys got there and she saw the pictures of yourself and Paul did she figure it out?
gotta run...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:42:30 by D
Where'd you little B? I gotta go to the gym...time to start my new Year's
Resolution. Evening everyone!
D
pretty #### funny stuff
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:40:00 by D
Comment: Family Guy?
IP: 172.209.19.183
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:38:53 by Brian RI
Anyone here a fan? I got both seasons on DVD...I'm totally addicted. Hilarious.
SEYA ADAM...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:38:01 by PAUL
...HAPPY NEW YEAR!
PAUL
Comment: Well guys and gals, I'm off for a while, catch ya'll laters.
IP: 65.41.53.114
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:37:08 by Adam
And best wishes to you D & P, you guys are great. I'm sure I'll be on here before then, but Happy New Years in advance anyways. Take care everyone
too funny!
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:40:44 by D
Comment: WHAT KIND OF BAG ARE WE
TALKING ABOUT????
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:43:18 by PAUL
IS IT JUST PLAIN BROWN OR IS IT A GOOD LOOKING BAG??
PAUL
Comment: Here goes my Aunt...
IP: 69.160.108.10
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:38:18 by Paul
My Aunt Ganda Mirabella cannot stop talking about the both of you and how she is schemeing to turn you both straight. She says just put a paper bag over her head and be done with her. She is in love. She is ready to turn her husband in for what she calls..."the hotties." Not gonna happen? Just say no so she can move on.
didn't see it
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:41:08 by D
NOT PROBABLE...
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66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:41:46 by PAUL
BUT IVE SEEN WEIRDER THINGS HAPPEN! I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT! ASK HIM IF
WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT THE SUBJECT, HE WOULD KNOW BEST THE KIND OF WORK
ENVIRONMENT HE IS IN!
HOPE ALL IS WELL AND HAVE HIM KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT HIM 210%
PAUL
Comment: Did either D* or P* look at my earlier post on DADT?
IP: 24.158.92.62
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:37:54 by Eli
Its way on down the page if it isnt gone already.. I cant believe that My friend can get kicked out of the army over what he says in emails..
we both do though Paul likes it way
more
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:33:24 by D
buckhead=bad
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:26:25 by D
welcome to a city my friend where you are constantly panhandled. You
should try San Fran or Seattle! You can't give those fools money. it's a
scam. you shouldn't have stayed downtown. Midtown is the place to be and
there are other cool nieghborhoods but you really have to have a local
show you around the city.
D
Comment: Question for Danny about Atlanta
IP: 207.90.99.55
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:24:17 by Thomas
I went there last 2 weeks ago for a little vacation and my friends and I absolutely COULD NOT leave our hotal at night without being hit up for money. I felt sorry for them and gave what I could to some people, but every corner we turned it seemed like there was another person asking. It was quite frightening since it was the first time I'd ever been in a big city. We stayed at the Fairfield Inn (i think) downtown by hooters and the peachtree plaza mall thing. My question is, are there any other placs in atlanta that have a lot to do, but isn't is ghetto as downtown? I loved buckhead, but I'm sure that's too expensive.
the #### is good...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:30:39 by D
Comment: Bowie
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:29:44 by BoulderSun
My partner of 8 years is somewhat of a Bowie fiend...
for Xmas...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:27:30 by D
I gave Paul the new Michael Jackson's Greatest hits and David Bowie's
Greatest Hits, which we can't stop listening to.
D
Comment: Music?
IP: 24.8.173.178
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:21:51 by BoulderSun
D&P-
What you two listening to for music these days? Do you have the same tastes in that department?
getting that many people to agree at
any time is impossible
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:35:56 by D
Comment: Not too much, trying to get my New Years Plans together..
IP: 24.158.92.62
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:33:37 by Eli
Its turning into a whine fest though, Its hard to get 8 people to agree to do one thing on New years.. Ahh.. lol..
What up Eli...what you doing?
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:30:20 by D
Comment: Im suprised they didnt let you guys see it before it went on Air..
IP: 24.158.92.62
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:29:43 by Eli
Hey Danny and Paul, I just poped on to see what was going on..
ACTUALLY...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:26:57 by PAUL
...NONE, IT WAS ALL UP TO JOHN NORRIS.
WE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SEE IT BEFORE THE MASSES!
INTERESTING WAY OF DOING THING BUT ITS MTV!
PAUL
Comment: Yo! Just curious if you two had a lot of say in the post-production of your special . . .
IP: 12.43.12.96
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:24:29 by Jake
music, editing -- was there stuff put in that you would have rather had left out? Or were there any points you made on camera that were left on the cutting room floor?
I think you need a nice balance...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:32:53 by D
that show went way over the top with sex...so much that it's almost only
about sex and leaves nothing for the imagination. There's a line between
raw, emotionless sex and cheezy, over the top love.
D
Comment: well.. but I'm curious...>>>
IP: 24.209.143.115
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:31:08 by kev
do you think our society as a whole would embrace a gay centered "loving" show about the good qualities? Sex sells in our society I guess... I guess I'm asking because I've always wanted to write a program centered around gay life. The REAL deal... not so much the bar fly scene. I just don't know if it would work... thoughts?
I feel like too many viewers see it...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:28:42 by D
as celebrating that part of gay culture and think it's ok.
D
Comment: ahhh....>>>
IP: 24.209.143.115
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:22:54 by kev
now that's something we can agree on. The show does nothing more than show us what we can see at a bar. But don't you think calling attention to something like that ... might make things change... or worse?
after watching it this past time...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:21:37 by D
I realized what I hate about the show so much. It's not really the show at
all! The problem is that the show focuses on all the lamest parts of gay
culture that I can't stand. why do I want to watch that on TV when I can
go out to a bar and witness firsthand?\
D
Comment: oh, and danny... i posted below about QAF... ;-)
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:20:31 by kev
everyone is invited...there is plenty
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:20:32 by D
Comment: Adorable
IP: 152.163.252.40
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:19:33 by Will
Danny and Paul are so adorable! I'm sure we've all noticed the nicknames "Cub" and "Little B".These kids are in love. How freakin cute can you two get? Also, Danny, I have a chinese symbol as my tattoo as well. It is the character for "strength" as I also got it to signify the inner strength I needed in order to come out to the fam and friends. Where's the invite for your pizza dinner?
Will
SARAH...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:20:28 by PAUL
YOUR DOING SO MUCH MORE AT 17 THAN MOST DO IN A LIFETIME. KEEP IT UP AND
TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR STORY.
PAUL
Comment: Thanks
IP: 24.159.116.114
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:18:19 by Sarah
I wanted to say thank you for being a positive role to the gay community. I'm 17 and I strive to be a positive role modle because so many people think that the gay stereotypes are true they are not and I want to thank you for proving that to be true and keep up the good work you are doing for the community.
THANKS FOR THE WELL WISH...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:18:29 by PAUL
CANT GO WRONG WHEN YOU HAVE THE UNIVERSE ON YOUR SIDE
BEST WISHES FOR THE NEW YEAR
PAUL
Comment: Ok ..Paul, Danny, and gang.....
IP: 141.153.210.155
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:16:35 by dave81
I guess this is it for me at this board (i mean for 2003). Just wanted to wish everyone a happy new year. I hope all your expectations come true.
Danny and paul, with what happened yesterday, you have started with the right foot.
I dunno i just have a feeling that next year is going to be great. My only advise for you guys, before i go, is to share with you a lesson that i learned from my favorite book, The Alchemist, and that is: Whenever you want something, and you put your mind in to it, the whole universe conspires to make it happen.Just remember that..because trust me..what seems impossible can really happen.
Ok guys enough of this corny message..so have fun..party hard..but party safe...and ill talk to ya on 2004.
Happy 2004!
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:17:48 by D
without a doubt...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:22:50 by D
the lamest, most overasked question I get. no offense.
Comment: Re(1): don't ask again please
IP: 69.47.153.228
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:18:58 by Sb
ok hehe sorry... nevermind
didn't occur to me that you might get a lot of those questions.
don't ask again please
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:16:09 by D
Comment: I wanna be on real world
IP: 69.47.153.228
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:15:52 by SB
I'm only 17 but next year when i'm in college, i'll have the chance.
Any tips?
what happened to the chicks?
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:16:31 by D
Comment: I miss JUNIOR, Emily, Carrie, and the rest of the gang that I haven't seen back here again yet...:-(
IP: 24.209.143.115
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:14:27 by kev
KALZ...
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66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:17:07 by PAUL
...SOUNDS LIKE YOUR LIFE IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK! I DO REMEMBER SGT BROWN!
HAPPY NEW YEARS TO YOUR FAMILY FROM MINE!
PAUL
Comment: Ft.Bragg/Hope Mills
IP: 67.27.93.150
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:14:08 by Kalz
Just wanted to say "Thank You" both u guys from an emotional level. I was never really into the real world and actually last night was the first i'd heard about all this. i'm only 21 but i tried to stay as far away from accepting that i was gay so i joined the military right out of high school. i'm from Hope Mills and i used to work at Cross Creek Mall and actually do you remember an Sgt. Nicole Brown was in your batallion. i'm now in the AF and have a wonderful lovable person in my life who's a guy and i love it. Thank you both. and good luck.
Probably not...i researched mine for 2
years before I decided on it
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:18:21 by D
Comment: i'm not sure if>>
IP: 24.69.255.202
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:16:08 by jim
all the people out there truly knows what's the meaning of their chinese character tattoo.
I have to say...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:13:40 by D
that if i was doing it again, I wouldn't do a Chinese symbol because
they're so trendy and overdone. It does have meaning though so i'm ok with
it. I got it as my final step in coming out to basically remind myself
everday that I was going to have to have courage if I was going to walk
down the path less taken. There was no turning back after that.
D
Comment: Danny's tattoo
IP: 69.160.108.10
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:11:32 by Paul
Danny,
What made you get the tattoo for courage? Was this done before you coming out? Love chinese symbols.
Insane Journal
CUB...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:12:14 by PAUL
GET OFF AT FIVE, WHATS FOR DINNER, IT BETTER BE WAITIN'
WINK WINK
PAULO
Little B
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:11:22 by D
you're at working chattin online...you're bad. when are you coming home?
DUDE...
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66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:09:38 by PAUL
...WHATS HIS STORY?
PAUL
Comment: Paul...another ?
IP: 68.78.135.28
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:08:33 by Dude-next-door26
Have you heard of Col. Douglass? He retired and ended up running a military school in Indiana?
he's always on here
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:11:51 by D
LOVE THAT SHIRT...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:11:08 by PAUL
...I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE ON THE BOARD THAT IS ACTUALLY FROM
FAYETTEVILLE!
PAUL
Comment:Paul . . . kick#####t-shirt last night . . .
IP: 12.43.12.96
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:07:31 by Jake
Danny said you two are coming to Fayetteville for Kelly's wedding - you guys should look me up so we can hook-up for a beer while you're here!
I remember...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:15:53 by D
and I still hate Queer as Folk. we watched it the other night for the
first time in a long time and I still feel the same about it. It's
oversexualized for easy viewing and bad writing. There was an orgy scene
where the over-the-top mom walked into and walked around the room because
she wanted to have one of her serious, "i'm concerned" conversations with
one of the guys. Give me a break!
D
Comment: nada...>>>
IP: 24.209.143.115
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:10:57 by kev
thanks for the website... I was originally from Texas when I was on here so much... met my boyfriend Chris here about 20 months ago and started dating... all from this site. ;-) and it's been forever but you and i used to talk back and forth about queer as folk and other various things... but you've done that with hundreds of others...hehehe...
what's up buddy
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:09:03 by D
Comment: hey Danny...>>>
IP: 24.209.143.115
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:05:35 by kev
it's been awhile since we last talked/debated... I don't know how much you remember ChrisPy and me... but we wanted to say hello again! We met from this board O so long ago... and now starting to come back
JIM...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:05:09 by PAUL
...I SERVED UNDER CLARKE DURING MY TIME IN BOSNIA.
ABOUT LECTURES, DANNY AND I WORKING TOGETHER, TALK ABOUT BEING AT EACH
OTHERS THROATS.
DANNY IS UP FOR A CAREER CHANGE NEXT YEAR, BE LOOKING FOR IT.
AS FOR ME I LOVE MY LONG HAIR JESUS LOOK, WASHINGTON STATE IS WHERE I WAS
BORN AND GRADUATED COLLEGE FROM, I GUESS YOU CAN SAY I'M GETTING BACK TO
MY ROOTS!
CAN'T SEEM TO GET MY SELF BACK INTO THE CAMOFLAUGE!
PAUL
DANNY...
IP:
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:07:40 by PAUL
...YOU ARE SOOOOOOOO CUTE AND CUDDLY. AND THAT SMILE IS TO DIE FOR, AND
THAT TWINKLE WHEN YOU TILT YOUR HEAD A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT!
WHAT ARE YOU DO CUB?
PAUL
AT WORK....
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:06:06 by PAUL
...AND ON THE COMPUTER. FUNNY HOW THINGS WORK OUT. I AM HAPPY!
PAUL
Paul...are you on now?
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:02:39 by D
Thanks...you're new here yeah?
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:05:38 by D
Comment: yep
IP: 68.78.135.28
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:13:28 by Dude-next-door26
logged on last night for the first time...very cool board...great job with it guys...you have an excellent web master
nope, but it's cold enough...I think
it's supposed to snow.
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:05:18 by D
Comment: we're expecting snow for the whole week in vancouver here...
IP: 24.69.255.202
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:06:56 by jim
not sure if i can handle that.
afternoon ctoc
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:02:11 by Danny
what's up guys...been a long, long time since i've been around here. I see
that Paul has been on today.
d
SOUNDS FAMILIAR...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:54:38 by PAUL
AT A REST STOP OUTSIDE ATLANTA...
SERIOUSLY KIDDING
WE MET AT A BAR NAME BLAKES IN ATLANTA.
BOB PARIS DOES SOUND FAMILIAR, WERE THEY GUESTS ON A TALK SHOP PROBABLY
DONOHUE?
PAUL
Comment: questions for Paul
IP: 68.78.135.28
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:50:59 by Dude-next-door26
If you don't mind sharing...how did you meet Danny?
Have you heard of Bob Paris? You and Danny remind me of Bob and Rod ... thats a compliment..sense bob paris was one of my true hero's and still is
IS TOO LATE TO...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:52:05 by PAUL
...REBLUR?
PAUL
Comment: hello people...
IP: 141.153.210.155
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:43:04 by dave81
less than 48 hours left of this year...any new resolutions??/
A LITTLE INFO...
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:50:22 by PAUL
IT THE CHINESE CHARACTER FOR COURAGE!
FUNNY YOU ENDED YOUR POST WITH THAT SAME WORD!
PAUL
Comment: Question for whoever...
IP: 69.160.108.10
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:41:57 by Paul H.
Paul, Danny...whoever knows...
What is the tattoo that Danny has? I think I remember it on his shoulder or arm. And also good job last night on MTV...bundles of smiles being sent your way for being so courageous!
ETHNIC BACKGROUND...
IP: 66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:27:44 by PAUL
SCOT IRISH AND FILIPINO
PAUL
Comment:
so paul, what's your background?
(nationality)
IP: 68.38.89.103
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:25:20 by d
MY FAMILY AS A WHOLE....
IP:
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Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:38:05 by PAUL
...DOESN'T KNOW ONLY MY PARENTS HAVE THE LOW DOWN. I LIKE IT THAT WAY, NO
NEED FOR OTHERS TO GET INTO MY PERSONAL BUSINESS
PAUL
MY MOM IS TAKING IT IN A RICE GRAIN AT A TIME, DAD (RETIRED OFFICER 32
YEARS) IS A IT NOT REAL AND HOW IS THE WEATHER KIND OF GUY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM SEEING THIS TV THING.
Comment: knowing my friend whos...
IP: 68.38.89.103
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:32:12 by d
filipino, and knowing his parents, what was coming out of the closet like for your family?
RERUNS....
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:24:07 by PAUL
Tue 12/30
11:00 PM
Wed 12/31
3:30 PM
Fri 01/02
12:00 AM
Fri 01/02
6:00 AM
Fri 01/02
3:30 PM
Sat 01/03
8:30 AM
Tue 01/06
2:00 PM
Tue 01/06
6:00 PM
SOUNDS LIKE IM YELLING WATCH ME WATCH ME!!!!
FUNNY
PAUL
CHECK OUT MTV.COM...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:40:19 by PAUL
I THINK THEY HAVE OUR LETTERS AND WILL BE POSTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN
THE FUTURE.
TAKE CARE AND HOPE YOU CAN GET A COPY OF IT FROM SOMEONE.
BY THE WAY DANNY AND I ARE SPENDING THE NEW YEAR IN CANADA!
HAPPY NEW YEAR AYE!
PAUL
Comment: Hey Paul, we don't get it here in Canada so maybe could you...
IP: 24.67.253.204
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:30:28 by Brad
hey danny and paul,
we don't get your interview here in Canada. i'm really disappointed because both of you have been such inspirations to me. i was wondering if there might be a transcript or something of the interview that might be available later. that would me muchly appreciated!
and paul, i hope it all goes well for you. best wishes to both of you lucky guys!
later,
Brad
THANKS JIM...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:25:10 by PAUL
INTERESTING CONNECTION!
TAKE CARE
PAUL
Comment: a song for Paul...
IP: 24.69.255.202
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:23:02 by jim
Dido - White Flag.
it's due to the lyric:
There'll be no white flag above my door.
Paul didn't surrender to this policy
FIGHT AT LEAST ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:33:54 by PAUL
...IM NOT TALKING FULL OUT FIST TO CUFFS BUT AT LEAST ENOUGH TO AIR OUT
YOUR DIFFERENCES AND THEN YOU END IT!
OH YEAH THAT TRUST THING GOES ALONG WAY!
IT'S THE MOST WORK YOU'LL EVER DO IN YOUR LIFETIME, EXPECT IT TO BE
NOTHING LESS THAN DIFFICULT AND WORK YOUR A$$ OFF!
GOOD THINGS DON'T COME EASY (OR CHEAP)! JOKIN ABOUT THE CHEAP PART!
PAUL
Comment: what makes a relationship work
IP: 68.78.135.28
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:22:11 by Dude-next-door26
I just have a question for all of you who are in long term relationships? How do you do it? I had a friend who was gay once say that it was impossible for gay couples not to cheat until after 40...that, this is the way it is...any stories...advice would be appreciated
CHEATING HAS NEVER HELPED A
RELATIONSHIP....
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66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:48:31 by PAUL
...THAT IS A VIOLATION OF TRUST AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THAT BECAME THE
STATUS QUO FOR A GAY RELATIONSHIP.
"GUYS ARE SEXUALLY DRIVEN" TRUE BUT WHAT SEPARATES US FROM THE ANIMAL I
FRY UP AND EAT IS OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND CONSEQUENCES!
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND AND COMPREHEND WHAT WE ARE DOING TO THE
ONES WE LOVE. THAT ALONE SHOULD PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THEM WRONG!
ITS ALL ABOUT THE TRUST!
PAUL
Comment: thanks...
IP: 68.78.135.28
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:40:24 by Dude-next-door26
Yes, it makes a ton of sense...I'm a psych major and use a ton of communication...although, I still end up in lTR with straight guys...but thats another topic...here's the thing guys...I was raised on midwestern values...I believe in monogomy...After I moved to chicago, the value system of the gay community really turned me off...Most of the gay people I have encountered here are shallow and so are thier relationships (esp with guys in my age group)...I'm afraid that if I do find someone here that thier values will lend them to view cheating as not a problem...that's were my friend came into the pic when we were talking...he was saying guys are sexually driven so cheating is inevitable...that alone seems shallow, and has turned me off. I know this might offend someone, but it is an issue that I am wrestling with..does this make sense at all?
SO TRUE ABOUT OPENING YOURSELF UP...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 15:00:11 by PAUL
...NO SURPRISES, AND WHEN YOUR READY FOR CHANGE THERE IS ALWAYS COMPRIMISE.
NOBODY HAS THE ABILITY TO READ MINDS, SO THAT'S WERE THE COMMUNICATION
KICKS IN.
CABOY IS IN THE RIGHT GROOVE WITH THIS ONE
PAUL
Comment: I think he may mean...
IP: 12.149.152.131
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:47:15 by caboy
what I have heard many people say is that, men by nature are promiscuous and when you have 2 men together, there is even more of a tendency that they will want to have multiple partners, but what I believe is that s e x is only a small part of a relationship. You need to build on a foundation of trust and love and again, communicate what you feel and want. Not every person wants an open relationship but make certain you communicate your feelings with your partner in the beginning and all during your relationship. Don't let it go on "auto pilot". My bf's sister had told her husband (before they were married) that she did not want kids and that was great with him because he didn't want them either. Well after they got married she decided she wanted kids and had them and I think to this day her husband is somewhat resentful for this.
I PROFESSIONAL SLACK...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:26:49 by PAUL
AND LIVE OFF MY SUGAR DANNY (I MEAN DADDY), KIDDING
I MANAGE A FRONT DESK OF A GYM
PAUL
Comment: Hey Paul, I'm curious. Where are ya working now that you're outta the military?
IP: 65.41.53.114
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:17:00 by Adam
JHUNEY...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:57:33 by PAUL
...DONT TAKE THAT BLUR AWAY, ITS A DOG EAT DOG WORLD OUT THERE!
HOW ARE THINGS GOING DURING THE HOLIDAYS, DID YOU GET OUR GIFTS?
BEING CATHOLIC...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:05:38 by PAUL
IS A BI*CH...I AM AND MY MOTHER DEVOUT. IM REALLY GLAD THAT DANNY WAS A
POSITIVE IMAGE TO SO MANY.
PERSONALLY HE'S GOT A LITTLE DEVIL IN HIM, KIDDING!
THINGS ARE CHANGING AND THERE ARE SO MANY IMAGES OUT THERE THAT IT WOULD
BE ABSURD TO THINK THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE A MORE ROUNDED VIEW OF GAY
PEOPLE.
THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER!
TAKE CARE AND THANKS FOR THE POST...
Comment: Hey
IP: 24.223.153.7
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:55:36 by Eric
Hello everyone, this is my first post to the chat board, I have been an occasional viewer of the board, every since I learned about Danny's website way back when but never posted on it. I saw that Paul was on here, and wanted to say it's nice to finally put a face to the blur. Until I saw Danny on the really world I was really uncomfortable with the fact that I was gay ( I was 22 at the time of the show) But seeing him let me see that it's ok, and that cool guys are out there. I grew up in a very small catholic town, and went to a catholic university, so I didn't have much of any exposure, all my thoughts and ideas about being gay where based on very stereotypical portals. But the RW showed a very real gay person in Danny and Paul, and for that I thank the RW and Paul and Danny.
MIKE...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:07:26 by PAUL
...IM TELLING YOU IT WAS THE LIGHTING!
PAUL
Comment: Re(1): Hey
IP: 152.163.253.70
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 14:04:44 by Mike
wow...how did you survive a catholice life all the way through college?....that must have been tough. I agree i think Danny and Paul shows what the ideal gays are. I think they are so awesome! (sigh)..I wonder when I will get to have something like what they have.
OZZIE...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:56:08 by PAUL
...GREAT STORY, WOW IN IT FOR 2 1/2 YEARS AND ONLY 20, I WISH I KNEW WHAT
WAS GOING ON WHEN I WAS TWENTY. ID BE A DIFFERENT KINDA GUY.
THE PARENTS THING, DANNY DID IT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT HIS PARENTS TO FIND
OUT VIA THE TV. I TOLD MY PARENTS WHEN I WAS GOOD AND READY. IT ALL HAD TO
DO WITH MY LIFE AND NOTHING ELSE, ITS A SELFISH ACTION. YOUR PARENTS WILL
NEED TO KNOW WHEN YOU WANT THEM TO KNOW. NO PRESSURE AND USE THE TIME TO
KNOW YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE.
NOTHING LIKE TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT A BOOK YOU'VE NEVER EVEN PICKED UP TO
READ! -PAUL
Comment: oh my, that's the most shocking news of 2003!
IP: 24.69.255.202
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:49:42 by jim
I THINK YOU SEND...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:59:01 by JOSH
...THEM TO JHUNE THE WEBMASTER
PAUL
Comment: A lil question...
IP: 152.163.252.40
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:40:17 by Josh
How do you post a message in that little section on the home page of
www.dannyandpaul.com? How do messages get there? Plz respond if u know...
POLITACALLY...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:45:31 by PAUL
...HE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION. I THINK ITS A BIGGER SUBJECT TO TACKLE THAN
MOST PEOPLE THINK. ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN WOULD CHANGE SOCIETY AS WE KNOW
IT.
YES THE IMPACT CAN BE THAT BIG. YOUR GOING AGAINST EVERYTHING RELIGIOUS
THIS COUNTRY IS BASED ON (EVEN IN OUR PERFECT NATION OF "SEPARATION OF
CHURCH AND STATE) VOTERS ARE MOTIVATED ON A RELIGIOUS LEVEL AND TO SIDE
YOURSELF WITH SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE IS WRONG IS TO ALIENATE THE
MASSES.
THAT'S WHY ALL THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ARE SIDESTEPPING THE ISSUE AND
NOT COMING OUT ON HOW THEY REALLY FEEL ABOUT MOST GAY RIGHTS ISSUES!
THAT'S MY TWO CENTS WORTH
PAUL
Comment: Paul, do you still complain Clinton's>>
IP: 24.69.255.202
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:12:35 by jim
move to introduce this weirdo policy?
I ALWAYS THOUGHT...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:24:41 by PAUL
I WAS A GREAT DRIVER, I AM.
MY PHILOSOPHY ON THE SUBJECT IS YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE OTHER DRIVERS ARE
DOING AROUND YOU.
SAME GOES FOR ALL THOSE MILITARY FOLK, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE OTHER
SOLDIER IS THINKING, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO EXPRESS YOURSELF BUT SO CAN
THEY...
...AND SOME TIMES THEIR EXPRESSION IS VIOLENT.
BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!
Comment: Re(1): EXCITED, COULD BE A WORD...
IP: 68.63.226.103
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:09:24 by Kyle Williams
I'm young, but I don't know that much about gays in the military. I just think I'm mature enough to figure out that if a life wants to serve a country risking everything they have for other peoples freedom.. they should be able to express themselves the way they want, instead of hiding behind some poser make-up.
Replies:
EXCITED, COULD BE A WORD...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:07:48 by PAUL
...I COULD USE. I HATE MY OWN VOICE ON ANSWERING MACHINES, ONE COULD ONLY
GUESS WHAT I WAS THINKING LAST NIGHT.
PAUL
THANKS ADAM...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:10:49 by PAUL
...I'VE GOT A REAL THICK SKIN. ITS ALL ABOUT THE LIGHTING OR LACK THERE
OF.
KIDDING!
I'M STILL AMAZED THAT PEOPLE REMEMBER DANNY AFTER FOUR YEARS LET ALONE
TUNE IN LAST NIGHT. I'M STILL WONDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAW THE
SHOW?!!?
PAUL
LIKE I SAID...
IP:
66.235.10.168
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 13:02:37 by PAUL
...I LIKE MY GOOGLIE EYES, THEY'RE GREAT TO SEE WITH. I WAS SO SUPRISED AT
HOW LITTLE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF "GAYS IN THE MILITARY"
ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE!
JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU "THE MORE YOU KNOW..."
PAUL
THANKS ALEX...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 09:22:02 by PAUL
TEARS OF JOY...
NOW THATS A NEW ONE, YOUR MAKING ME BLUSH
THANKS FOR THE POST AND WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT...
PAUL
Comment: Danny and Paul
IP: 152.163.252.40
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 09:04:08 by Alexander
I truly admire your relationship and how much you love each other.Last night watching the two of you together gave me tears of joy.(very rare cause i'm not a softy)It really lifted me up to see such compassion and strive put into the relationship throughout the years. I pray to God that in my lifetime I will also find someone to love and share my greatest moments with. I hope that throughout the years you don't get completely out of the public eye, because seeing you two inspires many people.
funny...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 08:43:35 by PAUL
we're asking the same question at the same time
paul
THICK SKIN...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 30, 2003 at 08:41:10 by PAUL
...personally i don't think that danny is all that!
kidding!
As long as you knew a little more about this policy after the show than
you did before!
...by the way I like my googlie eyes!
paul
good night d...
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 21:34:23 by PAUL AND DANNY
thanks!
p and d
Comment: g'night danny, paul, all
IP: 68.38.89.103
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 21:18:21 by d
it midnight here on th east coast, and i gotta hit the sheets.
its really nice to finally see you paul, i really hope that you do become the poster child of 'dont ask dont tell' its an important issue, and needs to be addressed. good luck to you both.
and uhhh.. lay off the caps... no need to yell...hehehe
Just kidding...
IP: 12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 21:31:34 by D
I would stay and chat but a ton of friends just showed up at my house to
watch. will talk with you guys later this week. goodnight!
D
PS-how annoying is the RW/RR challenge? I don't even know who half these
people are
evening guys...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 21:17:09 by D
so man, i haven't been on here for such a long time...part of that being
that the website has been and still remains down except for this link to
the message board. That pisses me off but hopefully it'll be fixed soon.
Paul stepped out to get pizza and beer so i'm here.
D
ADAM, THANKS...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 21:10:13 by PAUL
ONE SMALL BIT OF ADVICE, COLLEGE OPENS DOORS YOU WONT EVEN IMAGINE
POSSIBLE. DONT RUSH THINGS, BEING GAY SHOULDN'T BE WHO YOU ARE BUT JUST A
PART OF YOUR LIFE. PARENTS DO GET OVER IT IN TIME BUT DON'T THINK YOU HAVE
TO TELL THEM NOW TO COMPLETE YOUR LIFE, YOU'LL KNOW THE RIGHT TIME WHEN IT
COMES AROUND.
EASY TO SAY FOR ME BECAUSE IM NOT 19. YOUR A LOT MORE IN TOUCH WITH YOUR
LIFE THAN I WAS AT THAT AGE! YOUR NOT ALONE, EVEN IN ASHVILLE.
DANNY AND SPENT NEW YEARS THERE TWO YEARS AGO AND EVERYONE WAS PRETTY
RECEPTIVE AND KIND.
I WAS STATIONED AT FT. BRAGG AND LIVED IN THE GOOD OLE NC FOR TWO YEARS!
SMALL WORLD AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT IT IS A SMALL WORLD.
I THINK IM MORE INSPIRED BY YOU TRYING TO FIND YOURSELF AT 19.
TAKE CARE AND YOU HAVE FRIENDS
PAUL
Comment: Paul/Danny- I Need some Advice....
IP: 24.196.164.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:59:35 by Adam
First off, Hi How Are you? My Name is Adam. This is my first time visiting the message board, i heard of the site through a friend and i like it, it's great!
I am 19, i still live at home with my parents, i am gay, there isn't anyone that knows that but a few people, very close friends(2 to be exact), Noone in my family knows, i don't know if they suspect but i doubt it. The Majority of them would probably never talk to me again (and if that is true i would never want to talk to them again because i don't need people like that in my life)
Anyway, i live in a small NC city and alot of the people here including my family aren't very supportive of anything "gay". That is very hard for me,VERY hard, i don't know what to do, i mean, i'm 19, going to college, working, living at home still in the ignorance that is Asheville, i want to live my life, i don't want to be afraid of being myself, noone should have to go through that. it has come to a point where something needs to be done because it's getting to be too much for this 19 yr old scared kid. i have always said i want to move away and just basicly start over somewhere where noone knows me but with school, and my lack of finances....not really too realistic huh?.
Anyway, If you guys have any advice for me....i would really apprciate it!
PS: I saw the show tonight and i was inspired and moved by courage both of you have. and you are both so HOT!lol
OSCAR FLORES...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:57:26 by PAUL
I KNOW YOU AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! WHAT A SMALL WORLD, YOU BRING ME BACK
TO SOME OF THE BEST TIMES OF MY LIFE.
ITALY REALLY CHANGED ME AND I COMPLETELY REMEMBER YOU! THANKS FOR THE
MESSAGE AND I HOPE YOU DOING WELL. HOW'S LIFE???
ITS ALOT TO ASK BUT IM TRULY SHOCKED!
PAUL
KENNY...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:50:51 by D
...GREAT QUOTE, HAVE YOU READ THE LETTER ON MTV.COM PAUL USED A QUOTE FROM
THE SAME AUTHOR...
Leonard Matlovich
TAKE CARE AND HE HAD SOME GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT BEING A WAR VET, GAY
AND IN THE MILITARY...
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE REMEMBER EVERYONE THAT WENT BEFORE US
(ALL OF US) THAT FOUGHT FOR WHAT IS HUMANLY RIGHT!
PAUL AND DANNY
Comment: "I was given a medal for killing two men, a discharge for loving one."
IP: 172.200.39.104
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:45:43 by Kenny
What a sad reality.
Thank you, Paul, for doing what you've done tonight.
I couldn't possibly say how inspired I am.
Love on ya both,
Kenny
WHAT UP FOLKS...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:46:09 by PAUL AND
DANNY
THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT, PAUL IS GETTING NERVOUS I DONT THINK HE WANTS TO
WATCH THIS THING...
IS IT TOO LATE TO PUT THE BLUR BACK????!!!
D
YOUR MAKING US BLUSH...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:36:34 by PAUL AND
DANNY
IM GLAD EVERYONE IS ENJOYING THE SHOW, DANNY AND I APPRECIATE THE POSITIVE
FEEDBACK. IM SURE IF WE KNEW EVEN HALF YOUR STORIES WE WOULD BE THE ONES
SINGING THE PRAISE.
TAKE CARE AND AGAIN THANKS
PAUL AND DANNY
SO GUYS IM HUMBLED....
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:21:22 by PAUL
WE ON THE WEST COAST HAVN'T SEEN THIS THING YET BUT ITS COMING DOWN TO THE
WIRE.
HOPE IT'S AS GOOD AS I HOPE IT IS.
PAUL
GREAT LIFE, WE WANT TO BE A DADS...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:32:00 by PAUL
WE ALWAYS APPRECIATED HEARING SUCCESS STORIES. WE'VE HAD OUR GREAT TIMES
AND I THINK HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PARENTS WOULD BE A BLESSING. IF I
KNEW YOUR STORY A LITTLE MORE I COULD PROBABLY SAFELY SAY THAT YOU WERE
THE INSPIRATION!
I'M GOING TO CHECK THE WEBSITE
THANKS FOR MESSAGE!
PAUL
Comment: Paul!! I think its great.
IP: 67.8.109.228
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:20:04 by Sean
Hey i think your story is great man. It is an inspiration to all of us. I myself am gay and live in Florida with my boyfriend of 4 years now. After my divorce from my wife and getting custody of my son i too had to live in the closet.. I did not get to see the real world on MTV, however i admirer your strong relationship with Danny... goodluck.. Sean and Bill St. Pete, FL homepage www.ItsMyWorld.com
I GOT COLOR...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:59:32 by PAUL
WOW BLUE I'M WONDERING IF IT SHOULD BE ARMY GREEN...THAT STORY ON THE
THREE HIGH RANKING OFFICERS IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. HIGH RANKING OFFICERS
HAVE A LOT ON THE LINE, BUT IT JUST SHOWS EVERYONE HOW IMPRORTANT THIS
ISSUE IS!
PAUL
PLH...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:10:17 by PAUL
THANKS I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST WERE ON THIS BOARD I THINK IT WAS AT
LEAST OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JHUNE HAS IT IN HIM TO KEEP IT UP THIS LONG!
I HAVE FRIENDS FROM THE EAST COAST WATCHING THE SHOW AS WE SPEAK ITS KINDA
EERIE!
PAUL
Comment: Hi Paul its been a long time to see you and its been worth it .
IP: 68.79.88.81
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:02:45 by PLH
Re(1): Hi Paul nice to see you
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:02:10 by PAUL
IS THIS THE OLE PLH FROM SO LONG AGO?
WHAT IS UP LONG TIME NO WRITE
PAUL
Comment: Hi Paul nice to see you
IP: 68.79.88.81
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:57:43 by plh
Re(2): from an old member
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 20:01:08 by WHAT UP
JEREMY...
HOW IS EVERYTHING IN RI, WHAT'S TO DO IN RI WHEN YOUR 17?
PAUL
Comment: Re(1): from an old member
IP: 68.226.95.235
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:57:21 by chakra
and btw, hey y'all! I'm jeremy, 17 in RI
A DRINK FOR ALL...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:38:17 by DRINKSVILLE SOUNDS RIGHT UP MY
ALLEY...
THANKS ZACH HAVE A DRINK FOR ME! BY THE WAY WHAT DID YOU ALL THINK ABOUT
THE LETTERS ON MTV.COM?
PAUL
Comment: Good luck Paul...
IP: 24.86.114.32
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:34:32 by Zach
I hope all goes well. are ya nervous? i think i would be nervous. This one time we did this skit for my english class for Canterbury Tales and we had to show the tape to the entire class for the project and I was super nervous...adn taht was only 30 people.
anyway, i am off to drinksville. have a good one all.
zach
THICK SKIN...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:36:35 by THANKS CHUCK...
BETTER YOU THAN ME, I GUESS
IM JUST INTERESTED IN WHO I AM THROUGH THE EYES OF MTV!
THANK GOD I HAVE A THICK SKIN
PAUL
Comment: LOL...... a little nervous for you.....
IP: 216.63.106.7
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:27:44 by chuck-n-tx
But I gotta watch.......haha.
NEXTEL...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:23:21 by PAUL
WHAT UP WITH THE MWA? I DON'T GET ON THIS BOARD VERY OFTEN, ACTUALLY IT'S
BEEN ALONG TIME. I HOPE I CAN LIVE UP TO THE BLURS REPUTATION!
THANKS FOR THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE!
TAKE CARE
PAUL
Comment: Re(2): Im beyond estatic
IP: 170.206.225.93
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:20:54 by Nextel
Mwa paul u sexy guy!
GAY SHOULDN'T BE YOUR #1 PRIORITY...
IP:
12.228.24.50
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:20:53 by PAUL
DO BE SO READY TO GET SOME IN 4 YEARS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF LIFE AHEAD OF
YOU. BEING WHO YOU ARE SOMETIMES TAKES MOST PEOPLE A LIFETIME TO FIGURE
OUT! I'M STILL WORKING ON IT.
JUST DON'T GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE, HAVE FUN IN THE MEANTIME! THERE IS A
LOT MORE TO LIFE THAN BEING GAY!
TAKE CARE
Comment: Being gay as a 14 year old
IP: 68.40.190.168
Posted on December 29, 2003 at 17:06:09 by Frank
IT SUCKS. I am stuck here in my little close minded town and I cant come out to my family for fear of them disowning me. Is anyone else going through this? Oh, and on top of all this I wont be getting any action for 4 years. College please? ARGH! How can I deal with this better please give me advice, life is not too pretty at the moment.
Re(1): Im beyond estatic
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Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:15:27 by PAUL
THANKS JULIE,
YOUR MAKING ME BLUSH!
HAVE FUN WATCHING, AND YEAH THAT'S ONE KICK A** VAN HALEN SHIRT!
PAUL
Comment: Im beyond estatic
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Posted on December 29, 2003 at 19:10:15 by julie
You two are such an inspiration for not only the gay community- but every community. You inspire me with your story, your courage, your conviction and the grace by which you live your lives. Rock on!! Huge fan of you guys in chicago.
WHAT UP STONEY...
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Posted on December 29, 2003 at 10:00:12 by PAUL
PERSONALLY IM NOT ALL THAT, BUT THANKS FOR YOUR VOTE OF CONFIDENCE! CAN'T
WAIT TO TEAR MYSELF APART, THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN SEEING YOURSELF ON
THE TELE, CAN'T EVEN STAND TO HEAR MY VOICE ON THE ANSWERING MACHINE!
BY THE WAY I THINK OF YOU EVERYTIME WE USE THAT CRAZY HAWAIIAN TOWEL.
I HOPE YOU AND JHUNE HAD AN AWESOME MELE KALIKIMAKA (SP?)
TAKE CARE
PAUL
Comment: gooodmoring to danny , paul, everyone...!!! tonites the big nite huh?!!!! i hope i dont forget to
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Posted on December 29, 2003 at 09:04:39 by Stoney
watch!!! i am sure it will be love at first sight all over again!!
the letters:
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Posted on December 23, 2003 at 17:46:39 by Jhuney boy
Check out "Out in the Real World" December 29 at 10:30 p.m. ET, and
these letters written to you, by two guys with a unique and inspiring
story.
"The Real World" has given us lots of compelling characters and story
lines over the years. But few have been quite as memorable or as timely as
the story of Danny and Paul.
Danny Roberts was a Georgia boy, fresh out of school in early 2000, who
figured living in a house in New Orleans and having his life filmed 24/7
might be fun. But fun turned to drama turned to paranoia because of
Danny's new boyfriend, a U.S. Army captain known only as "Paul." Because
of the military's policy of "Don't ask, don't tell," which bars openly gay
service, Paul could not reveal his identity. So, thanks to "The Real
World" producers' solution, he became "the guy behind the blur." To this
day all we've ever seen of Paul is a blurred-out face and clothing.
That all changes on the MTV News Now special "Out in the Real World," when
Paul finally unveils himself. The show includes never-before-aired footage
of Paul's arrival at the house in New Orleans, and features Paul and Danny
talking about how their relationship became a nervous existence of
constantly worrying whether their secret would be found out, with Paul's
career — and possibly his safety — on the line. How many of our
relationships could survive that kind of tension? But theirs not only
survived, it's stronger because of it.
- John Norris
*****
Danny's Letter: A Face To Show
When "Real World New Orleans" aired in 2000, a lot of media outlets hailed
Paul as "finally putting a face" to the issue of the military's "Don't
ask, don't tell" policy that became so associated with us as a couple.
When we first met and I subsequently did the show, I had no clue that the
issue would become such an overwhelming focus around us, nor did I even
personally know much about the policy. I was just like most of America's
young people, that is, unaware of what the military had to say about gays.
"Finally, I can say that today we have made the decision to literally put
a face with the issue and share one story of how misunderstanding and
discrimination directly affect people's lives. "
But when we met in December of 1999, I began a major transformation in my
life that affected so many areas of my being. One major way was that I
quickly learned a deep lesson about the policy and what it means for so
many people in our country. In fact, I learned a deep, personal lesson
that so few have or ever will experience. Having lived in New Orleans
behind the lens forced me into the public light and a huge part of that
was dragging the one I loved into something that neither of us was ready
for or willing to deal with at the time. To tell the truth, it was a
pretty stressful and confusing time in both of our lives. We both went
from living our own separate, unassuming lives to suddenly representing a
social, religious and political issue through a pop-culture filter. From
that point on, I began absorbing the meaning of the policy from all
standpoints, and ultimately understood it's so wrong in so many ways and
so against what we are as a nation.
Finally, I can say that today we have made the decision to literally put a
face with the issue and share one story of how misunderstanding and
discrimination directly affect people's lives. What I really want you all
to see through this is that in the big picture, this isn't only about us
and the military's policy of "Don't ask, don't tell." It's ultimately
about thousands of people out there whose lives are so negatively affected
in so many ways when a minority is looked down upon by a cruel majority.
Thanks for the support and much love,
Danny
*****
Paul's Letter: A Good Day To Stand
I can remember what I was doing the day someone died by being strung up to
a fence because of who he was. It wasn't the day that I thought "I need to
stand up for who I am."
Probably I should have.
I can remember what I was doing the day someone died by being beaten to
death with a bat by a fellow soldier who had given an oath to protect and
serve all values that our great nation holds dear. It wasn't the day that
I thought "I need to fight the injustices that are happening to others."
It would've been a good fight.
A couple of years later I met the love of my life and again someone else
took the burden of advocate, not only dealing with being "out to America"
but also providing the nation a "pop culture" look at the military's
"Don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Recently I realized that I've been sitting on the sidelines, living a life
riding on the shoulders of others. We all have. I've always believed that
even a little can help, so it's my time to walk down a road that has
already been paved by so many before me: Matthew Shepard, Barry Winchell,
Leonard Matlovich, Pedro Zamora and James Dale (to name just a few).
Ten years after the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy was enacted by the U.S.
military, the nation (unlike the policy) has changed so much. I believed
"for the better," but if our military is a reflection of our society, then
why is there so much intolerance and hate in the military? Probably my
beliefs were a little optimistic and we have a lot of work ahead of us or
probably the military has a lot of catching up to do.
"When Americans went to the Vietnam Memorial to remember and honor those
who gave their lives fighting ... it never occurred to them that some of
those who were the strongest, bravest and most heroic were also GAY." -
Leonard Matlovich
Why does an institution deny some individuals' basic desire to serve their
country? If you can't answer this question then you can see the need to
abolish a policy that theoretically was a step in the right direction (10
years ago) and start demanding a new policy that reflects the views or our
tolerant society. A lot of growing can happen in 10 years, but this policy
hasn't budged an inch. This is a fight into which I have chosen to throw
my punches, and I believe that it is important to see a face attached to
the words.
I challenge each of you to choose your fight and believe that it's a good
day to stand for what you believe is right.
"Awareness and education can be time-consuming and slow — but well worth
the effort." - Judy Shepard
Paul
Evening guys...
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Posted on December 21, 2003 at 20:34:15 by D
hows it? I'm finally home again after being in LA and Atlanta for almost 2
weeks. good to be back.
D
It's actually...
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Posted on December 21, 2003 at 20:36:41 by Danny
begins airing on December 29 and is hosted by John Norris. It's a special
covering Don't ask, Don't tell and will show Paul for the first time.
D
Comment: Danny? You are going to have a MTV special?
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Posted on December 21, 2003 at 19:43:04 by Alvin
I read on another message board that you are going to have your own MTV special called MTV News Now: The Real World: Out in the Real World. Is this true? It said it was airing January 2nd @ 6 a.m. and p.m.
thanks
gotta run ya'll
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:19:13 by D
have a good evening/night. talk to ya'll soon.
D
wha't s up Bob...catch ya later
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:19:33 by D
Comment: Hey room how's everyone doing?
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:18:52 by BobWSU
Paul...
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:15:34 by D
just got back from there...yeah, we're heading to Atlanta next weekend for
a week with my family. can't wait to be back in the ATL>
D
Comment: Another question for you Danny. Do you and Paul get back to DC much? Paul's got family>>
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:14:03 by Robert
In DC right? Are you going to Georgia for the holidays?
she's excellent...they're both lucky
kids
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:07:17 by D
Comment: D, how's Kelley doing? I have a crush on her. Scott's a lucky guy!
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:05:41 by Robert
same ole wet crap
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:07:36 by D
Comment: Man, that's rough. How's the weather back in Seattle?
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:06:44 by Robert
The worst part...
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:05:27 by D
took a LIRR commuter train from Manhattan and transfered in
Jamaica...except the transfer bus never came to get to JFK. So after being
stranded in the snow outside for about an hour, I was lucky enough to find
a cab that would take me just in time to catch my flight and sit on the
runway for 4 freakin hours. Apparently when it snows, cabs are nowhere to
be found going to the airport.
D
Comment: Yeah, I know the feeling. I fly in and out of Chicago a lot>
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:03:28 by Robert
And during the winter it has the potential of being a very stressful trip.
yeah...
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:01:27 by D
went there for pleasure for one night but the pain of getting out there
made the trip questionable as to whether it was worth it or not. I spent
more time trying to leave than I was actually there playing. I love the
city and seeing my friends there but what a pain!
D
Comment: Was your visit to NYC for pleasure? I know you were there recently, right? NYC is an awesome city
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:00:07 by Robert
close enough
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 14:59:15 by D
Comment: Hey D....I not exactly in the Northeast, but we certainly>>>
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 14:57:55 by Robert
Received a lot of snow here in Virginia.
Couldn't deal with temps like that!
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:16:08 by D
Comment: we better get used to it....
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:12:52 by Sebastian
normally we'd have like -10 degrees Centigrade (something like 10 degress F) at this time of the year. Friday we had 10°C (50°F).
Of course city government didn't check that there's no snow and they scattered little pebbles (I dunno the right english word for that process) and it's like you're walking in a cloud of dust all the time.
welcome to global warming!...fun yeah!
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:06:57 by D
it's actually keeping it dryer in the winter here so it's working to our
benefit, but not the environment's which needs the winter rain. It's only
gonna get worse as China and Russia revs up their industrial machinary!
D
Comment: Vienna, Austria....
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:03:55 by Sebastian
winter weather is totally ####ed up over here for the last two years...at the moment we have temperatures like in the beginning of April and no snow in sight.
Which is kinda sad b/c we have great Christmas Markets all over the place but without the snow it's only half the fun.
Where are you?
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:01:58 by D
Comment: totally not in the NE...
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 14:59:24 by Sebastian
but still waiting for snow over here in middle europe...
Evening CTOC...
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 14:52:23 by Danny
to those of you in the NE, i'm sorry! I got out of NY just in time Friday
night to avoid the worst of it but what I experienced was plenty. Walking
around the city in a blizzard isn't fun.
Anyone watch the Reagan show on Showtime? It was pretty interesting and I
learned alot from it.
D
yeah...
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:08:28 by D
whomever this is appears to be your typically ignorant, immature American
teenager.
D
Comment: strange...never associated the word hot with Ville Valo or Steve-O
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 15:02:17 by Sebastian
what the hell is this?
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Posted on December 7, 2003 at 14:59:36 by D
Comment: (no subject)
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