Stoney and
Billy
Posted by D on 12/25/2002 at
15:22:09
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thanks for the Christmas presents! too sweet.
love,
D
Merry
Christmas
Posted by Danny on 12/25/2002 at
15:07:40
IP: 12.242.162.217
Hey guys...Merry Christmas!
Hope you all had a good one and all your wishes came true.
To all a good night!
much love,
Danny
Have a good one
Posted by Danny on 12/18/2002 at
13:19:51
IP: 12.242.162.217
Hey guys, have to run. Have a good one and remember to laugh at
least once today. This world is too uptight.
D
tour-JL
Posted by Danny on 12/18/2002 at
12:45:27
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my tour date list is incomplete right now and i'll update it later
in Jan. I have a date coming up in Fla on the 15th of Jan I believe and
i'm always going around the New York area. It depends on what schools
book and most of them wont do their booking until later next month. Keep
checking the list.
D
Good morning again
Posted by D on 12/18/2002 at 12:43:39
IP: 12.242.162.217
Hey guys. Just stopped by the check and am lovin it that some
people are talking this morning.
Hey Chris, yeah, the states stay divided mostly among ethnic
neighborhoods. You have to think to our history and the beginning when
you had people from all over the world comming en masse at the same
time. It was natural for them to gang together with who they connected
with, especially by language. It has always been that way and probably
will be for a long time in the future.
D
Comment:
American issues
Posted by chris (Germany) on
12/18/2002 at 10:45:30
IP: 145.254.235.56
Hi!
I read the interesting conversation about race.
I personally don't get the fact that there are still such big issues
in your country?
On my Florida trip I was scared when I went through different quarters
in Miami and other big cities. I can't understand that every
race/ethnic group has there own quarter (hispanic quarter, black
quarter, gay quarter etc.). And I almost never saw any blacks hanging
out with withes, they just kept out of their way.
This is unbelieveable. I never saw something like this here in Europe.
OK, we only have few blacks, but the ones I know are all very well
accepted. The same goes to foreigners and other minorities.
What are the reasons? It's really hard to say, maybe people in Europe
are more openly and try to get along with everybody, and maybe we
learned from history!?!?!
cya
Chris
News
Posted by Danny on 12/18/2002 at
10:08:28
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Good Morning world. Did anyone catch on the news this morning that
the U.S.'s first openly gay police chief just made the announcment? I
caught it on CNN but didn't here where he was.
D
thanks
Posted by D on 12/17/2002 at
22:29:38
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Forgot to mention. I'm heading to the A.T.L. (home) and probably
wont be around a computer. If that's the case, Merry Christmas to you
all in advance. And to all a good night.
much love,
D
MIke
Posted by D on 12/17/2002 at
22:23:21
IP: 12.242.162.217
if it makes you feel better, everone is this world is oppressed in
some way or another. Some just less than others. Most oppression is
self-oppression and nothing sucks more than playing the victim. Look up
buddy.
D
only suggestion
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
22:20:28
IP: 12.242.162.217
Freeman,
the only thing I can suggest is to either move to a new town or at least
to a new neighborhood. I know exactly where you live and it's cracker-ville.
I live off Rainier Ave and that's more brown than anywhere else. I'm one
of the only white kids around here and like it that way.
That cracks me up about the Walgreens thing and that's so typical.
People in my neighborhood got pissed because they want to tear down a
couple of crap buildings left over from the 70's that have no character
to build a new light rail station. Give me a break. I'd rather hear
people not complain about anything and live in "utopia" than whine about
crap like that.
I do like this town alot though.
On that note, I have to say good night so that I can go run. I'll be
cooped up in a plane for 5 hours in less than 24 so I need to move all I
can.
I enjoyed the convo guys and wish there was more of this on the board.
Seems like lately it has devolved into a chat room of sorts.
Take care until next time.
D
the fault
Posted by D on 12/17/2002 at
22:12:47
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12.242.162.217
Mike, I get the point you're making, but the fault here is that
you're not taking into account those who really are affected by racism
in the end. What you said is so easy for a white kid to say. "Oh yeah,
racism isn't a part of my life." If your skin was brown, even if you
weren't racist and wanted to ignore it, you couldn't help but not be
affected by it.
Seattle
Posted by D on 12/17/2002 at
22:09:00
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yeah man,you're right...white, white, white. However, racism and
all the other isms aren't as much a problem here. This place is so ####
liberal and accepting in general. But...you're right, because of the
fact that people aren't exposed to many real social problems here, they
tend to forget that they exist. It cracks me up what kind of rediculous
crap people get their panties in a wad over here. Life is so relatively
easy here and people don't know how good they have it. People will #####
about the smallest things and don't even realize what REAL problems
exist out there in America and the world.
D
COLOR
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:59:00
IP: 12.242.162.217
Freeman, here's your biggest problem man....YOU live in Seattle!
This is one of the whitest places period i've ever seen. Coming from
Georgia, it just trips me out how white this place is. Actually, it kind
of freaks me out sometimes. Example, yesterday at he mall, I stopped and
started looking around and realized that there was Paul and one other
brown man in the whole #### place! Cracker-ville.
Mike, your statement wasn't ignorant buddy, just idealistic as you put
it. It's easier not to notice a problem when it doesn't directly affect
you.
D
Comment:
Is that an ignorant
statement? Its not like Im unfamilir with it.
Posted by Mike 2 on 12/17/2002 at 21:54:14
IP: 64.12.96.138
Mike
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:52:11
IP: 12.242.162.217
nothing wrong with being an idealist. I was more of one in the
past and it's a good trait even if sometimes it blinds you to reality.
6 feet under...the cop reminds me of one of my friends back home in
Atlanta whose a black gay cop. Alot of that show takes place in Seattle
also does it not?
D
another Seattlite
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:48:26
IP: 12.242.162.217
awesome...more folks from rain town. Hey man, one of my best
friends here in town is a gay black guy and he's cool as hell. You
should meet him.
Mike, you definitely aren't from the south with a reponse like "race is
only an issue if you make it one"!
D
Comment:
Race is an issue only if
we make it an issue. Hate is seeing the body, but not the soul of a
person
Posted by Love is when their soul is all you see -Mike 2 on
12/17/2002 at 21:41:34
IP: 64.12.96.136
QAF
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:46:24
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you're completely right Freeman. There aren't many potrayals of
gays of color in the media most likely because the media is controlled
mostly by lame#####white guys, especially lame#####gay white guys.
That's why narrow minded, self-limiting shows like QAF exist. They're
being created by old white men who are very out of touch with the newer
generations. I'm not even going to get on that old subject anymore. I'm
sick of talking about that show. I've really gotten into watching 6 feet
under lately. There's a gay guy on that show whose a black cop. Seen it?
Good stuff.
Mike, your post was beautifully utopian.
D
Comment:Race...continued
Posted by Freeman on 12/17/2002 at 21:41:51
IP: 12.228.5.11
Basically, because the gay community is so overwhelmingly white,
it has been very difficult for me to feel completely accepted. The few
images of gays that are portrayed through various forms of media, very
rarely include people of color. There are few things about my identity
that are reinforced as being positives within our community. Even
though it's a crappy show, no one on "Queer as Folk" looks like me.
Re: QAF
Posted by Freeman on 12/17/2002 at 21:50:00
IP: 12.228.5.11
Danny, I definitely agree with you. Much of the problem is
the inability for progressive-minded individuals to represent all
of us through media. Yes, I'm a big of fan of Six Feet Under(my
favorite show on TV at this point). The writing on that show is
amazing and like nothing I've seen before. You're right, I've
definitely seen (Keith) the black cop on 6 Feet Under and it does
feel good to see that representation on television.
What's not like me?
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:33:57
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Comment:
Dang, harsh Danny. Thats
not like you. They have good points, I'm sure.
Posted by Mike 2 on 12/17/2002 at 21:32:30
IP: 64.12.96.136
I stumped
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:40:29
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Freeman,
don't really know what to say because I'm surprised. Maybe it has
something to do with what part of the country you live in or what
country you live in. Where do you live?
D
Comment: Re:
Race
Posted by Freeman on 12/17/2002 at 21:38:39
IP: 12.228.5.11
Sorry, I'm new to this whole message board system. I meant to
say that I feel being a Black man has limited this acceptance.
Re: I stumped
Posted by Freeman on 12/17/2002 at 21:42:39
IP: 12.228.5.11
Race
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:30:32
IP: 12.242.162.217
not sure exactly what answer you want however I do feel that race
is less of an issue within the community. In general, gays tend to be
more accepting of just about anyone, including people of color.
Amazingly though, there are some bigoted gays out there who don't like
brown skin just the same as any other bigot.
I think it's interesting that many straight people of color don't like
gays just the same as any white. You'd think that after the struggles
they've been through they would be more understanding. I think it has to
do alot with religion and also there's the strong belief that being gay
is somehow a choice. There's this belief among many people of color that
a gay of color is only choosing to make their life even more difficult.
I've seen it alot and dealt with it with friends back home.
D
Me personally, I love brown skin and Paul can vouch for that!
Comment:
Race in the Gay
Community
Posted by Freeman on 12/17/2002 at 21:24:41
IP: 12.228.5.11
Re: Race
Posted by on 12/17/2002 at 21:36:52
IP: 12.228.5.11
I appreciate your response. I was interested in your opinion,
for two reasons: because you're a white gay male, and you are in
love with a person of color.
Analyzing this issue has been interesting for me. Being a gay man of
color, I'm sad to say that I've felt an overwhelming amount of
marginilization because of my race. It's really strange
actually....I thought that I would readily accepted by gays, but
feel that a Black man has limited that acceptance.
TO Seattle
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:21:22
IP: 12.242.162.217
to anyone from Seattle reading this: if you get a chance, check
out CHOP SUEY on New Year's Eve. They're having a continuation of the "I
Love Shiva" parties and the music is awesome. Indian trance and pop.
D
evening all
Posted by Danny on 12/17/2002 at
21:17:38
IP: 12.242.162.217
Evening CTOC. Just wanted to thank those of you who responded to
my last journal entry. I made an update to it tonight that hopefully
will be posted by tomorrow.
By the way, who the hell are the TRIPOD people that keep posting links
to the RW sites? I really hate them posting crap about this trashy new
Las Vegas season. If you get this message MR. Tripod, please stop
posting that. That new season is worthy of the fire and those kids
should be shot. They're an embarrasment to the rest of us. ####, did I
get my point across?
Thanks,
the management
Seattlites
Posted by Danny on 12/15/2002 at
17:05:12
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Evening CTOC. Glad to see so many of you on here. I've made a big
effort lately to constantly tune in and at least read posts though I
don't think many of you realize this.
I have to let those of you know who are from Seattle on here about one
of the best nights of music i've found here yet. It's a night called
Bollywood thrown by The Baltic room every other Saturday. Went last
night and had a freakin blast. The music (Indian pop) was so good and
the crowd was so much fun (no attitude). The night will happen again on
New Year's Eve at Chop Suey so if you get a chance to go, I recommend
it. I hope the Baltic room will host this night more in January.
D
Important to me...
Posted by Danny on 12/15/2002 at
17:00:24
IP: 12.242.162.217
Mike,
My group of friends that I keep close to me are like a family to me. In
college, my close knit group of friends actually referred to each other
as family. I love those kids as much as I love my real family. It's
about quality, not quantity. I realized years ago that it's better to
have a small group of friends that you really connect with and who get
you/vice-versa than to have many friends.
Living out west has really made me miss my family as well and they're
more important to me no than ever before.
And...of course there's Paul.
D
Comment: Danny, we all know and love Paul, but who are the other
important folk to you? Friends and family?
Posted by Don't mean to pry. Curious. Mike 2 on 12/14/2002 at
20:07:21
IP: 64.12.101.156
Same to you
Posted by Danny on 12/14/2002 at
11:24:21
IP: 12.242.162.217
Comment:
siv stoker danny paul
happy hollidays
Posted by han on 12/12/2002 at 13:11:56
IP: 209.114.164.6
just saying hi if u get this and thanks foy ur help again!!!!
today i am feeling somewhat better but my guy is not
3rd person
Posted by Danny on 12/14/2002 at
11:22:13
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I love it when people refer to me in 3rd person on this message
board as if I'm not reading it.
So Anonymous, have you actually seen BB2? Probably not since it hasn't
been released yet so how do you know it's such trash? It's actually
nothing but short films (mostly European) about young guys who are
coming to terms with their sexuality. I'll admit that some of it isn't
the best material but it's certainly not as trashy as QAF. I know what
I'm doing and I wouldn't host something that was against what I stand
for or my morals.
Thanks.
the management
Comment:
why does danny
contradict himself?Queer as folk trash, but Boys Briefs isn't???...more
Posted by on 12/13/2002 at 20:22:13
IP: 67.25.255.149
Danny is always contradicting himself, he says he won't watch
Queer as Folk cuz it's "trash" , but then he'll host a sleaze fest
video like "Boys briefs 2"? What the @*&#???
Just my opinion, I'm sure a bunch of "DANNY DEFENDERS" will blast me
for that one but it true!
the real issue
Posted by Danny on 12/14/2002 at
11:19:15
IP: 12.242.162.217
it's not about us "saving the planet"...how egotistical would we
have to be to think that we could actually "save the planet" and of
course it will outlast us. The real issue at hand is saving us from
ourselves. We're certain to wipe ourselves out soon at the rate we're
going.
D
Comment: Incidentally, I've think I've only disagreed with him on
environmantal issues. I don't think the
Posted by Mike 2 on 12/12/2002 at 22:41:48
IP: 152.163.189.65
earth is that fragile. Sure, we should do the best we can to
take care of it, but we're talking about a planet that survived
everything from ice age cycles to mass extinctions to nuclear blasts
to a 6 mile long comet that wiped out seventy-five percent of all
life. Trust me, the earth has survived things dadlier than we could
ever through at it, it will survive us.
How's the weekend?
Posted by Danny on 12/14/2002 at
11:26:02
IP: 12.242.162.217
Everybody having a good weekend?
Nothing but rain in Seattle.
How are the holidays treating people?
I have to admit that i'm not really into Christmas anymore. I think it's
really depressing to watch people running around like mad men buying
gifts for each other that have no meaning. What do you guys think?
D
Come on guys
Posted by Danny on 12/7/2002 at
11:50:16
IP: 12.242.162.217
alright guys...I have to say that I couldn't agree with Carrie
more. This board is turning into exactly what I don't want. No more BS
drama and clean it up. Brent, could you be more disrespectful and Robby,
enough. You're digging for attention now and it's getting old.
thanks,
management
Good Day
Posted by Danny on 12/3/2002 at
10:50:11
IP: 12.242.162.217
Good Day CTOC. How's it going?
Good I hope.
Robby, calm down buddy. You're far too sensitive. As I said before, of
course young people can be wise and way ahead of their time. And of
course not every experienced person is wise. However, experience does
bring wisdom and a young person who is wise will only be that much wiser
later in life. I know this from experience my friend. Trust me, I have
far more in common with you than you may know. I too thought I knew so
much at your age but just a few years later i've learned how much I
still don't know and have to learn. A wise person knows not what they
know but what they don't know. Hope you feel better buddy.
Danny
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